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Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« on: January 08, 2014, 10:33:24 pm »

Any suggestions on the best way to roll and ship a large canvas?  I assume shipping tubes, but for something like a 40x60 inch canvas (on 44" roll), that's one heck of a tube.  And which way to roll it... image side out or in?
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Re: Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2014, 11:46:20 pm »

Any suggestions on the best way to roll and ship a large canvas?  I assume shipping tubes, but for something like a 40x60 inch canvas (on 44" roll), that's one heck of a tube.  And which way to roll it... image side out or in?

I do it the way it was: image side out. I roll the face with acid free tissue, then wrap the roll in kraft paper so that the roll is slightly smaller than the inside of the tube. I cut the tube so that it is about two inches or so internally longer than the print (taking into account the end caps, and use small bubble bubble wrap to pad the two ends.

I have been known to wrap prints and canvas around left over three inch paper cores, but firstly covering the core in tissue because they often have sticky residue on them. Then pack them into the tube.

I ship UPS or FedEx, because USPS doesn't like round things.

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Re: Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2014, 11:51:49 pm »

The place where I buy my wholesale packing supplies will cut 1/4" wall, 4" diameter cardboard tubes to any length I want, complete with a couple of plastic end caps.  Most such supplier will do that. Pretty cheap, too.  One of the smaller gals around here can stand on the side of one of those tubes without crushing it, I should sell tickets just to watch.  When you specify the tube length, be sure to take into account the depth of the caps, plus only about 1/8" to prevent the print from wiggling around. 

I roll up the well dried canvas face-in around one of BC's 2" foam padded cores.  Then slide the rolled print with tube into the 4" rube.  Spinning the 2" core in the opposite direction of the canvas wind, I withdraw it.  Then I spin the 4" tube counter to wind which sooner or later causes the rolled canvas to expand out to the inside circumference.  Then I stuff the empty space with lint free Scott Blue Shop Paper Towels.

I seal up the ends by winding 2" strips of masking tape around the circumference of the tube so about 1.25" of tape is sticking out past the tube.  Then I fold the masking tape down over the caps and burnish everything down.  Super secure.

I don't do a lot of these, but the 10 or so I mailed last year all made it one piece.

You can add tissue and stuff over the face of the print if you want.  That would be mostly for client-appeal.  If you want to be fastidious, there might be some argument for preventing the "sharp" leading edge of the print from rubbing up against and possibly denting the print itself one turn down the road.  Maybe a short piece of tissue would be advisable there.  Or maybe not.  Mostly just make sure to carefully wipe down the surface of the print before rolling to remove any little pieces of grit.
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Re: Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2014, 07:23:22 am »

By rolling it opposite of the natural curve so the image is on the inside, could that not cause the layer of ink to compress and crack?  I'm talking about un-coated canvas in this case.  Or even if it is coated - any difference?

Bill... where do you get your tubes?  Is it a national supplier of any sorts?
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Re: Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2014, 07:41:24 am »

Boy I would be wary of shipping any uncoated canvas tissue paper or what not.  If it's a matte canvas that surface is so fragile it's more than likely going to get damaged by the person unpacking it.  Al it takes is one finger print. 

When I ship I roll the canvas face in but mine are all coated.  On large ones I also use the old cores from lexjet or BC.  Lexjet core can be made into the padded cores from BC easily.

Uline should have the large tubes 4inch diameter.   www.uline.com. Shipping specialists.

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Re: Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2014, 08:03:43 am »

By rolling it opposite of the natural curve so the image is on the inside, could that not cause the layer of ink to compress and crack? 


That's a BIG YES!


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Re: Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2014, 12:05:07 pm »

The tube supplier is a local outfit in Albuquerque called Peli.  I doubt if they would mail order.  Uline has a lot of tubes in their catalog.  Art supply stores also sell highly priced shipping tubes.

http://www.uline.com/Cls_15/Tubes?keywords=shipping+tubes

Canvas is tough!  If you have a reject print, roll it up this way and that as tight as you want.  See if there's any damage.  Canvas abuse has reached epidemic levels in my shop, but we see very little damage from it.  About the only way to kill a canvas print is to bang the sharp edge of a piece of Gatorfoam into or across it.  Or to stack up a bunch of mounted prints and then foolishly try to slide one out from the middle.  But a non-rigidified piece of canvas has a lot of give.
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Re: Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2014, 12:44:11 pm »

PVC -3" or 4" diameter with end caps.  You can get fancy by drilling the cap and tube, putting a brass insert in the tube and a brass screw to hold the cap.  Otherwise just tape the end caps on.  Not that expensive, can be cut to length and is reusable.  Plus you can drive a truck over it.

Alternatively, I use a lightweight 4" diameter Fisherman's fiberglass travel tube that I pick up locally.  All set to ship - no big deal.  Works like a charm because it's telescoping.

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Re: Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2014, 11:59:27 pm »

We have ULine here in Canada as well.  I'll check them out, but I'm pretty sure you can only order in bulk (25/50 or something). 

Thanks for the warnings and tips guys.
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Re: Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2014, 10:01:45 am »

We have ULine here in Canada as well.  I'll check them out, but I'm pretty sure you can only order in bulk (25/50 or something). 

Yes, I had to order 25 of the 36 x 4" tubes from ULine. It isn't the cost, it is the storage space. Unless you are doing this frequently, PVC pipe may be the way to go.

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Re: Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2014, 10:07:45 am »

There are UPS shipping retail stores around here that can safely package almost anything and then ship it for you. If there is no good option for a suitable cardboard like tube – and I like the idea for a PVC tube if only for the availability at nearly any home improvement store, the low cost, and especially the near bullet proof materials including PVC end caps – perhaps there are similar shipping stores in your area…

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Re: Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2014, 01:39:58 pm »

I have a couple UPS stores in the area, but at least the one I usually frequent says they don't have tubes long enough for the 44" canvas.  I may try the PVC thing.
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Re: Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2014, 05:43:39 pm »

Ulines 24x44 adjustable 3 1/4" tube is perfect.
My only complaint is the 3 1/4" can be smallish at times.
Box of 25 was about $4.38 per tube and the box fits perfectly under my workbench.

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Re: Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2014, 10:59:10 pm »

Dan.... are these the ones you're talking about: http://www.uline.ca/BL_3705/Adjustable-Tubes

Would they hold a 44" canvas being 44" is the upper limit?  That'll make the length at least 60" or so.  Is that where you're finding it 'smallish'?
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Re: Shipping Rolled Canvas?
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2014, 11:34:33 pm »

They are the ones.
 I meant small diameter as on occasion I send 3 or 4 large canvases rolled and they just do not fit.
Another inch would be good.
They have a larger size but they are too long.
I will have to look at them in the morning but I am sure they open to 44" not 60"
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