More on "selfie"

[jjj]

Is that all?  I though the Empire covered the entire Earth, the US still has some catching up to do!

I doubt 90% is going to be beaten by anyone for quite some time, if ever.

[RSL]

The guy who did more "selfies" than anyone else was Lee Friedlander, but if you'd called one of his shots a "selfie," he'd probably have popped you in the chops.

[Chairman Bill]

Tatterdemalion is still in the dictionary, and I doubt it gets used much these days. Selfie could be in the dictionary for quite some time.

[bdkphoto]

The guy who did more "selfies" than anyone else was Lee Friedlander, but if you'd called one of his shots a "selfie," he'd probably have popped you in the chops.

It's actually this guy: http://www.arno-rafael-minkkinen.com

He was honored just a few weeks ago in NYC at the Lucie Awards (our version of the Oscars ) for his "body" of work.  Really wonderful, inventive work. He joked about being honored for doing selfies-- he's well worth checking out. Wonderful teacher too.

[RSL]

Tatterdemalion is still in the dictionary, and I doubt it gets used much these days. Selfie could be in the dictionary for quite some time.

It's a shame, Bill. Tatterdemalion's a great word and it still should be in general use.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

I doubt 90% is going to be beaten by anyone for quite some time, if ever.

Selfie = new name for the inflated sense of self-importance?

90%!? Give me a break! A few skirmishes and you "paint" 11% of the world territory as "yours" (e.g., Russia)!?

[Rob C]

Selfie = new name for the inflated sense of self-importance?

90%!? Give me a break! A few skirmishes and you "paint" 11% of the world territory as "yours" (e.g., Russia)!?

Slobodan, arguments are presented to win points, not to tell truths!

;-)

Rob C

[jjj]

90%!? Give me a break! A few skirmishes and you "paint" 11% of the world territory as "yours" (e.g., Russia)!?

No the map was about places invaded, not ruled.

[jjj]

It's a shame, Bill. Tatterdemalion's a great word and it still should be in general use.

Funny you should say that Russell, as I thought you were referring to....

[Eric Myrvaagnes]

Let's solve the problem by all starting to communicate exclusively in God's own language: Esperanto!   

[Rob C]

Let's solve the problem by all starting to communicate exclusively in God's own language: Esperanto!  

I had an Esperanto book in the 40s - I think 'tree' was arbro, or something similar... the book came from an English gent who'd lived in Spain a while. As I recall, a mix of Italian, Spanish, French... no wonder there was a war in Europe. Now, we have the Common Market, and a war may come again, too. The Great Fudge has to hit the buffers one day, and the carnage will offer great selfie opportunities.

Weebly gave me the key to my technical disaster with my new Coke Page in the website, but now, with their help, I have fixed it. It's sad for me to see the stuff looking correctly focussed there, but never here anymore. On the other hand, the reverse would be worse!

;-)

Rob C

[Telecaster]

Maybe Vivian Maier can impart some creative weight onto the selfie:

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2013/11/vivians-selfies.html

Received my copy a couple weeks ago. It's a beautiful book.

-Dave-

[fike]

I am not sure why there is such a derisive attitude towards a new word for something people have been doing for hundreds of years.  I think we are just seeing the curmudgeon-factor here.  In order to validate that you are not just being reactionary and curmudgeonly, I want you all to list four newly created words that you actually like. If you can do that, I will allow you to complain about selfie without pulling the curmudgeon card.

Just to play by my own rules, my favorite new words: selfie, twerking, crowd-sourcing, milf, and polyamory. I don't give you these words to claim I am an adherent of their meaning, but I do think they are interesting and useful.  

...and just to make my point, here is a selfie of my grandfather taken sometime in the late 1950s or early 1960s. I am really happy I have the picture. It lets me see into his personality and to have some connection across the years based on our common interest of photography.

[Rob C]

Maybe Vivian Maier can impart some creative weight onto the selfie:

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2013/11/vivians-selfies.html

Received my copy a couple weeks ago. It's a beautiful book.

-Dave-

Also, considering everything we think we know, it shows and confirms yet again that talent is from within. You can't effin' buy it, be taught it nor steal it, no matter how many coins you have that you can throw at it. Throw 'em at the Trevi instead - you can always get an expensive ice cream or espresso when you get there.

Wondeful chick. I wonder if recognition in her lifetime would have ruined her?

Rob C

[Misirlou]

Just to play by my own rules, my favorite new words: selfie, twerking, crowd-sourcing, milf, and polyamory. I don't give you these words to claim I am an adherent of their meaning, but I do think they are interesting and useful.

I will use them all in a single sentence:

"I was cruising Tumblr yesterday, when I found a hot page of selfies, all crowd-sourced from twerking, polyammorous milfs."

[WalterEG]

Off the top of my head I am enamoured of 'sapiosexual' — a formerly unnamed trait of which I have always been a devotee.

I also enjoy being curmudgeonly but I feel that to use the word to describe LuLa members is a great injustice to the word.  To me 'curmudgeon' makes no reference to being terrified, bored, paranoid or socially challenged.

If I can think of another three new words I'll gladly add them to complete your challenge.

W

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

... a new word for something people have been doing for hundreds of years...

Well, not quite.

What people have been doing for thousands of years is known as self-portrait, which happens to be a respected art genre.

The difference is profound. The difference though is not so clear from all the dictionary and other references so far, which focus on technique, but completely miss the frequency of use. Selfies are done dozens of times a day* and published online almost as frequently (and that's where the narcissistic nature of it comes into play). Trust me, I have a teenage daughter.

I, for one, welcome the new word (though not the new world it describes), as it clearly serves to differentiate itself from the time-honored artistic self-portraits.

EDIT:

* by the same person, in case it was not immediately clear

[RSL]

Good point, Slobodan. Hear, hear. I like the idea of differentiation, making clear the schism involved between "selfies" and actual art.

[RSL]

Funny you should say that Russell, as I thought you were referring to....

No way, Jeremy. Actually, Dickens was coming to mind.

[jjj]

It does sound like a Dickensian name - Neville Tatterdermalion - the rag and bone man from Cheapside.