One of the Midwest suppliers sales staff, was saying probably 2 or more years for the 3880 due to its popularity. Amazing and the iPF5100 I hear does NOT get bought at all these days - of course Canon won't budge on the price for an unknown reason. So it indeed does look like the R3000 and Pro-1 will eventually come out in other sizes, larger sizes. Just all of us guessing when. The mid west supplier salesman suspected not this year however. As far as price for 3880, we have the $200 rebate since Sept. In spring it was $250 and summer 2012 it was $300. So now my question for me is - what will happen in November/December? I would love to see that $300 rebate and bring it down to $829. I will buy if that happens next week. Thanks for sharing everyone. Continue of course if you want.