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wmchauncey

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Broken Rules
« on: October 22, 2013, 02:35:15 PM »

What say you folks about this one?


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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2013, 02:37:33 PM »

I think your earlier efforts were better. I don't like the apparent drop in height in the fourth "frame": it doesn't fit with the story of take-off. The idea of flying into the light is good, though.

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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2013, 05:02:46 PM »

+1

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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2013, 05:06:53 PM »

Well done!

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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2013, 05:55:25 PM »

I think your earlier efforts were better. I don't like the apparent drop in height in the fourth "frame": it doesn't fit with the story of take-off. The idea of flying into the light is good, though.

Jeremy

Unfortunately nature is non-linear ;)

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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2013, 07:19:08 PM »

Is Photoshopping the bird's position in the name of "Art" allowed?         :-\
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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2013, 07:32:29 PM »

Is Photoshopping the bird's position in the name of "Art" allowed?         :-\

Of course, art is indulgent.

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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2013, 01:52:48 PM »

Unfortunately nature is non-linear ;)

That is indubitably true, Harald. It doesn't necessarily mean that it makes good photographs, sadly.

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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2013, 02:35:01 PM »

That is indubitably true, Harald. It doesn't necessarily mean that it makes good photographs, sadly.

Jeremy

There you have a point.

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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2013, 06:36:20 PM »

Are you guys suggesting that this is not an especially good image because the fourth bird appears out of place
or is there something inherently wrong with the image?
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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2013, 11:35:15 PM »

I think your earlier efforts were better. I don't like the apparent drop in height in the fourth "frame": it doesn't fit with the story of take-off. The idea of flying into the light is good, though.

Jeremy

The bird is just trading some altitude for velocity....reminds me of some of the carrier take off films  ;)
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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2013, 01:39:26 AM »

Are you guys suggesting that this is not an especially good image because the fourth bird appears out of place
or is there something inherently wrong with the image?
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For me the picture with the 3rd shot alone would be a very fine one. The series makes it to a study and distracts my attention.

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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2013, 04:12:31 AM »

Are you guys suggesting that this is not an especially good image because the fourth bird appears out of place
or is there something inherently wrong with the image?
I'm here to learn...gimme some help here.       ???

There's nothing inherently wrong with it. It seems to me, though, the fact that the fourth image shows the bird lower than the others spoils the story of take-off: the ascending line is lost. I realise exactly why it's lower (I'm sure Frank's right), but for that reason, the image as a whole doesn't work. I think it would be a better shot without the fourth frame.

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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2013, 12:58:49 PM »

I didn't catch the point for the first second. I thought there were multiple birds.  There aren't  many physical differences among the first three bird images.  I wonder if there would be a way to blur the birds showing movement, maybe one into the other or slow enough so the wings blur to show movement.  That way you would  see the flight as a composite immediately and would understand this is a movie done in still form.  Is there a way to do this so you bracket the shutter speeds so the last is sharp and the earlier ones blurred?  

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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2013, 01:04:46 PM »

Maybe braketing the exposures might give that same effect.  The first the lightest, and each subsequent bird darker until the last that is the correct exposure.
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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2013, 03:07:46 PM »

Something like this, perhaps. (I am a terrible person, and I am sorry ;)

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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2013, 03:31:18 PM »

I like the image and the change in altitude doesn't cause any serious problem for me.
I think its a nice idea and I'd keep it.

The only problem I can see here without nitpicking too much is the conflict of messages:
Documentary versus "beautiful bird" image.
Hung at a wall I'd prefer an image with one bird composed well.
In a nature documentary I'd admire the series showing the birds takeoff.

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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2013, 03:44:29 PM »

It's a really tough audience here...these BIF series images, ranging from 11 merged images down to 3,
are quite popular on other sites and I've yet to see anyone else doing them.  Takes all kinds I guess.     ;)
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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2013, 03:55:25 PM »

It is a topic of some interest to me how tastes within any given forum converge. Things well received in one place will be panned in another. I'm not sure how much of it is people of similar tastes finding one another, and how much is opinions being formed within the community.
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Re: Broken Rules
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2013, 06:17:03 PM »

Something like this, perhaps. (I am a terrible person, and I am sorry ;)



Might have been better if you had remembered the reflection.  ;D
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