Oh, and the relevance of the 2000 vote tally in Florida is?
You were highlighting democracy so I thought I'd throw in some of the better examples of what's happening to democracy in the USA..
And what do you suppose the fate of a journalist who broke such a story in Russia or China would be?
Probably similar to what the US Government will do to Snowden if he returns to the USA...
You really do have an attention span problem. Again, your response is completely off-topic.
Hey, you were the one that wanted to talk about democracy and free speech...
Snowden's actions went far beyond free speech. He willfully broke the secrecy oath he signed and tried to damage the U.S.
If he also swore an oath to protect the constitution against all foes, both domestic and foreign, which do you suppose wins?
The one for secrecy or the one to protect the constitution?
Sure. Right. That's why the first thing he does is run to that bastion of freedom and tolerance called China and then Russia.
Don't you think that is ironic that a whistleblower is afraid of justice in the country that makes out to be the foremost bastion of democracy, justice, freedom of speech, etc?
Give me a break. The NSA looking at your international phone records is not an attack on anyone's "rights and freedoms". Assuming, for the moment, that you're even an American, tell us what rights and freedoms have been taken away from you?
It is against the 4th amendment to the constitution:
Fourth Amendment to the United States ConstitutionWhat happens if you get a brain?
Thank you for your kind words.
You wouldn't have to ask that question if you had even a cursory understanding of what Prism, or the NSA, is here to do.
Now there's a truly idiotic question for you.
I assumed wrong. You're not an American. And now that you've inadvertently tipped your hand, it's clear that you have no vested interest in my country and therefore no moral authority in this discussion.
But to continue our previous thread...you are completely, thoroughly clueless. As a binary thinker, I wouldn't expect you to understand the value of preventing even one attack. Your insistence of an all or nothing justification for a program like Prism betrays an adolescent and self-centered perspective. If Prism prevented even one attack it would be well worth it. But as a matter of fact, through the efforts of the U.S. intelligence services, hundreds of attacks have already been thwarted. But I would gladly trade all the metadata on the planet to save just one life.
Well without any solid evidence to evaluate your claims with, what you're saying is worthless. If you want to continue to make accusations and throw out opinions, fine, but they're really not very interesting unless they're substantiated with external evidence being presented alongside. Please feel free to repeat the above when you've got some sources that you can cite.
If there is, you've made no case for it whatsoever. You've offered no evidence, only the kind of moronic platitudes that one finds on paranoia factories like 4chan.
Thank you for your kind words.
And how do you plan to prove that PRISM would have been the only thing that could have saved their lives?
Only thing? You haven't been paying attention.
You're the one complaining that Snowden has compromised PRISM and thus the ability of the USA to find potential terrorists. So I'm putting it to you, how do you prove that PRISM is the vital link in the chain and not something else?
Again, you display a total ignorance of what Prism does. If you don't have even the most basic facts there's no point of discussing the matter with you further. Come back when you've done your homework, kid.
Well to be honest, I suspect that nearly everyone here is ignorant when it comes to PRISM as we're not allowed to know what it is in detail (thanks NSA.) So if you do then obviously you're on the inside (which would explain a lot actually) and thus part of the problem.
It is interesting the way in which you've tried to go all out and attack me rather than attack the topic. Usually this is taken as another indicator of the writer being someone that is out to distract attention away from the subject at hand and the only people that want to do that work for the government. People like that pop up in forums all over the Internet.
Attacking me and/or other posters with personal insults, etc, does not contribute to the discussion in any meaningful way. I would suggest that if you want to have a meaningful debate then keep it to things like journalists being murdered, people going to prison for speaking their mind, people being outcast from their countries, etc. That makes for a vastly more interesting discussion than having to read through "you're a !@*$!".