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Vladimirovich

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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #420 on: July 30, 2013, 05:47:09 pm »

So much for the theory that publicly disclosing information amounts to "aiding the enemy":

Manning Is Acquitted of 'Aiding the Enemy'

it depends on the definition... some people here do think that 1/2 of their own population are enemies  ;)
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Re: Is Richard Snowden a hero?
« Reply #421 on: July 31, 2013, 10:16:36 am »

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Rocco Penny

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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #422 on: July 31, 2013, 10:40:44 pm »

 hunter thompson went near mad during the nixon juggernaut, eventually so full of contempt for the system that he was generally useless for the rest of his life,
the curse of lono and a few bits and pieces notwithstanding, he was spent during his rabid if ineffectual rantings that I admire still- hated nixon...
makes me think of the forty plus years since,
the entire gobmint is full of nixons,
goddam police state-
you people,
dont you see that the only thing less hypocritical than snowdens dealings,
are the govt's handling of the leakers and what will be done to them.
The govt should just admit what it did in Iraq,
then maybe we'll move on,
depending on if the police state continues,
no one cares?
Just wait,
you'll see,
$$$ spent to watch everyone, the least able to defend themselves,
losers,
the next in line,
anyone with law enforcement contact,
then will come tax cheats,
maybe,
probably credit defaulters first then tax cheats,
soon we'll have to have reeducation camps to keep up with the demand for um reeducation,,,
Snowden is the smoke and mirrors ploy,
obama on the hill today?
When greenwald was gonna testify?
HAHAHA
you guys just keep eating it up,
I don't care,
I have nothing to hide, the security team and law enforcement has too much money and it is my game to make them spend it,
that's where this will end,
when we find out how much this BS costs the nation,
HOW MUCH???
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mezzoduomo

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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #423 on: August 01, 2013, 12:41:30 am »

hunter thompson went near mad during the nixon juggernaut, eventually so full of contempt for the system that he was generally useless for the rest of his life,

Oh, I see: It was political frustration and contempt for the system that reduced him to a barking loon, and not his well-documented insatiable appetite for any and all drugs, both narcotic and psychotropic. Thanks for that edifying little tidbit of pure horse shit.
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Rob C

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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #424 on: August 01, 2013, 04:00:47 am »

Oh, I see: It was political frustration and contempt for the system that reduced him to a barking loon, and not his well-documented insatiable appetite for any and all drugs, both narcotic and psychotropic. Thanks for that edifying little tidbit of pure horse shit.


Quite; if you watch the Annie L bio by her sister, you'll see her references to the man as well as the Rolling Stone world of dreams Annie and writer both inhabited... he probably smoked as much genuine, desert-dried mustang horse-shit as he dropped everything else.

But then, in recent culture, many crazies catch the 'educated' as well as public ear. It's what makes them even more crazy: they can't believe their mental shit is selling and propagating, thus destroying what they had hoped would be their well-earned sense of commercial and messianic angst... A poet without pain! The failure of not being misunderstood! What a travesty of natural justice - only absolute madness and a soupçon of suicide remain as acceptable exit.

Thank goodness I only produced images and some print.

Rob C

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mezzoduomo

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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #425 on: August 01, 2013, 08:56:36 am »


Quite; if you watch the Annie L bio by her sister, you'll see her references to the man as well as the Rolling Stone world of dreams Annie and writer both inhabited... he probably smoked as much genuine, desert-dried mustang horse-shit as he dropped everything else.

But then, in recent culture, many crazies catch the 'educated' as well as public ear. It's what makes them even more crazy: they can't believe their mental shit is selling and propagating, thus destroying what they had hoped would be their well-earned sense of commercial and messianic angst... A poet without pain! The failure of not being misunderstood! What a travesty of natural justice - only absolute madness and a soupçon of suicide remain as acceptable exit.

Thank goodness I only produced images and some print.

Rob C



 :D :D :D :D
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Rocco Penny

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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #426 on: August 01, 2013, 09:16:23 am »

Back to Richard Snowden.
After having the US deny torturing prisoners in hte face of evidence, aftr the US having assured Russia that it will not seek the death penalty, after the US managed to down the plane of a head of state just by asking,
well Russia has the guts to tell the US,
'we don't believe you.'
Grants Snowden asylum,
and good,
can't wait to hear greenwald testify,
oh and mz
what is your disfunction?
You suddenly show up to this board and start insulting everyone you can,
you seem like a weirdo
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Rob C

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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #427 on: August 01, 2013, 11:20:10 am »

Back to Richard Snowden.
After having the US deny torturing prisoners in hte face of evidence, aftr the US having assured Russia that it will not seek the death penalty, after the US managed to down the plane of a head of state just by asking,
well Russia has the guts to tell the US,
'we don't believe you.'
Grants Snowden asylum,
and good,
can't wait to hear greenwald testify,
oh and mz
what is your disfunction?
You suddenly show up to this board and start insulting everyone you can,
you seem like a weirdo



Who do?

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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #428 on: August 01, 2013, 09:06:59 pm »



Who do?

Rob C

Rob,
I believe Rocco Penny refers to yours truly.  Yes, my feelings are hurt.... :'(
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Rob C

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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #429 on: August 02, 2013, 04:11:36 am »

Rob,
I believe Rocco Penny refers to yours truly.  Yes, my feelings are hurt.... :'(


Never mind; pop, over to another thread and someone there will give you a spanking new bandage for the wound, provided courtesy the British tax payer!

We are all so generous in Britian, especially those of us with no money. We have developed the admirable, collective (what else?) skill of spending someone else's as if it were our own.

;-)

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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #430 on: August 02, 2013, 04:25:47 am »

Quote Rob C

We are all so generous in Britian, especially those of us with no money. We have developed the admirable, collective (what else?) skill of spending someone else's as if it were our own.

;-)

Unquote.

Why do you use the word WE? When was the last time you lived in Britain? If my memory is correct you fled 30 years ago to your Mallorcan haven. Since then you have regularly bad mouthed Britain and Scotland in particular. Even the Tories accept paying for bandages from tax payer's money is reasonable. Nuf said because I wish to remain a member of this forum. :o

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Re: Is Richard Snowden a hero?
« Reply #431 on: August 03, 2013, 11:38:00 am »

The FBI is getting in on surveillance without a warrant too:

FBI pressures Internet providers to install surveillance software

Of course, it is just more "metadata", harmless, right?

Except that this means the FBI will now know how often you're looking at porn or if you're accessing a gambling website overseas, etc.

Given that they have no idea who each IP belongs to and their methodology, they obviously care naught for whether or not both parties for an Internet transaction are American.
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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #432 on: August 03, 2013, 06:57:33 pm »

And given that they don't know the identity associated with any IP, how exactly is this an invasion of privacy? There's no evidence that any of this is being used for anything other than the stated purpose.

All countries have intelligence services and all of them engage in this kind of traffic analysis, because it's in their national interest. Not to do so in the face of an ongoing terrorist threat would be an an act of gross negligence.
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Rocco Penny

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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #433 on: August 04, 2013, 09:12:20 am »

funny how not spying on your own people, using defense derived technology on your own people,  building a police state capable of quashing common dissent if not actually engaged in that,well,
failing to do these things is tantamount to gross negligence in half this nation's small minded prideful nostalgic construct.
cool, go on...
now congressional members, and members of the senate are admitting to denied access to critical documents even explaining the nature of the fisa court decisions.
Man,
you guys have this coming-
again maybe 1 plot foiled,
how many billions does this cost?
bad set up
keep building the middle class by bullying those least able to defend themselves...
if we make it,
people will look back at our kind and call us fools-
whatever
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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #434 on: August 04, 2013, 01:42:50 pm »

What a great display of ignorance starting with "Richard".  It's Edward Snowden.
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Rob C

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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #435 on: August 04, 2013, 01:52:59 pm »

What a great display of ignorance starting with "Richard".  It's Edward Snowden.


Well at least nobody mentioned Edward Steichen.

Dickie, Dick, Eddie, Ted or anything else: a rose by any other name... In the end, it's the cult by which thou shalt know them.

;-)

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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #436 on: August 04, 2013, 06:19:09 pm »

yep richard snowden is a rube---
and to top off matters,
chuck schumer says to obama "let's call off the St Petersburg bully summit, on account that putin's a bully"
what part of rip off don't you guys get?
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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #437 on: August 04, 2013, 08:03:01 pm »

What a great display of ignorance starting with "Richard".  It's Edward Snowden.

I am glad someone finally noticed I was refering all along to my neighbour Richard and his issues with our Naturalist Sadomasistic Association.

Cheers,
Bernard
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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #438 on: August 05, 2013, 12:25:57 am »

As I said in another post, Americans don't really care about "freedom" because they just want "Moar."

Americans "Just" Wants To Be Safe, Happy, Rich, Comfortable, Entertained At All Times

http://www.theonion.com/video/nation-just-wants-to-be-safe-happy-rich-comfortabl,33336/

Progress!
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Re: Is Richard Snowden a heroe or a criminal?
« Reply #439 on: August 05, 2013, 11:30:50 am »

FYI: The Onion is a satire site.

Their "news" stories aren't real. Pew Research never conducted any such study.

Here are some other Onion stories that have "cited" Pew Research:

"Pew Research Poll Finds Creationists, Evolutionists Now Outnumbered By Whogivesashitists "

"Poll: 1 In 5 Americans Believe Obama Is A Cactus"

"Number Of Users Who Actually Enjoy Facebook Down To 4"

"Poll: Americans Feel Safer With Martha Stewart In Jail"
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