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Re: World Economics Fully Explained At Last
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2013, 03:26:02 pm »


Because I don't have the desire and probably not willing to make the effort.


I see... so it is only your "desire" stands between you and a $1bln  :D
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Re: World Economics Fully Explained At Last
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2013, 03:30:59 pm »


So many somebodies have better than a Macjob; food for thought, Vlad?


many yes, but much more (in USA) have just that :-), granted they are not living like billions of poor souls in India/China, but they have just a McLife... one paycheck to another... and, oh, it is just they don't "desire" to be billionaires, just like you  ::)
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Re: World Economics Fully Explained At Last
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2013, 04:13:04 pm »

Ha, Ha! That's great.
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Re: World Economics Fully Explained At Last
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2013, 05:07:31 pm »

American pseudo-capitalism:
- You have 2 cows.
- Someone with 4 cows bribes the politicians to make it illegal for you to sell your milk anywhere but Guam and Puerto Rico.
- A biotech company patents the “udder” gene and sues your cows. The Supreme Court validates the patent.
- Rush Limbaugh bloviates that selling milk is a “comma-you-nistical gummint plot” and all the people with IQ less than 90 stop buying milk, even those in Guam and Puerto Rico.
- Your 2 cows join the Tea Party and stop producing milk, because that is something actually useful. Instead, they protest to keep the government’s hands off their Medicare.
- You manage to make a small profit depite all the obstacles. The government takes most of it away in taxes to pay for agricultural subsidies to large corporations, tax breaks for the oil giants, and for unneeded and illegal wars.
- You decide to kill the cows and eat the meat, but it is tainted with pesticides, mercury, antibiotics, and antibiotic-resistant bacteria because the regulatory agencies have been prevented from doing their job by the right-wing nincompoops who hate any and all regulations no matter how sensible and needed.
- You eat it anyway and then you die. Your kids fight over your camera equipment.

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Re: World Economics Fully Explained At Last
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2013, 05:38:24 pm »

But there is hope: The U.S. Supreme Court just ruled that the "udder" gene cannot be patented!

(Of course, the billionaires can still buy any politician they want.)

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Re: World Economics Fully Explained At Last
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2013, 05:57:50 pm »

so why are you not a billionaire yet ?

That's the stupidest post on LuLa in a long while. And believe me, the competition has been tough.

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Re: World Economics Fully Explained At Last
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2013, 09:13:02 pm »

Those unable to distinguish reality from theory always would prefer Pyongyang.
That's what this list is missing--North Korean economics!   :D :D :D
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Re: World Economics Fully Explained At Last
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2013, 09:25:37 pm »

NORTH KOREAN COLLECTIVE
You have no cows because Dear Leader forbids you to have cows.
Dear Leader tells everyone you have 200 cows.
When Dear Leader shows up to collect the milk from your 200 cows you have none.
Dear Leader ships you off to the gulag for subverting socialist revolution.
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Re: World Economics Fully Explained At Last
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2013, 10:52:56 pm »

American pseudo-capitalism:
- You have 2 cows.
- Someone with 4 cows bribes the politicians to make it illegal for you to sell your milk anywhere but Guam and Puerto Rico.
- A biotech company patents the “udder” gene and sues your cows. The Supreme Court validates the patent.
- Rush Limbaugh bloviates that selling milk is a “comma-you-nistical gummint plot” and all the people with IQ less than 90 stop buying milk, even those in Guam and Puerto Rico.
- Your 2 cows join the Tea Party and stop producing milk, because that is something actually useful. Instead, they protest to keep the government’s hands off their Medicare.
- You manage to make a small profit depite all the obstacles. The government takes most of it away in taxes to pay for agricultural subsidies to large corporations, tax breaks for the oil giants, and for unneeded and illegal wars.
- You decide to kill the cows and eat the meat, but it is tainted with pesticides, mercury, antibiotics, and antibiotic-resistant bacteria because the regulatory agencies have been prevented from doing their job by the right-wing nincompoops who hate any and all regulations no matter how sensible and needed.
- You eat it anyway and then you die. Your kids fight over your camera equipment.

That reminds me of Lesterland.

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Re: World Economics Fully Explained At Last
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2013, 11:50:00 pm »

CUBAN COLLECTIVE
Fidel gives you two cows.
Your cows soon die because Fidel gives you nothing to feed them.
When Fidel shows up to collect the milk from your two cows you blame their deaths on American imperialism.
Fidel pins a medal on your chest and proclaims you a Hero of Socialist Labor.
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Re: World Economics Fully Explained At Last
« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2013, 03:03:57 am »

NORTH KOREAN COLLECTIVE

Dear leader ships off the only two cows in the country to Hassle-blad in order to fund its rocket program which is called Lunatic in appreciation of the funder. Clearly a land with no cows and a starving people is in dire need of a nuclear defence program.


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« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2013, 03:40:00 am »

Bravo, BJL ;D

The forum's matador has arrived. ;) Guaranteed to be a lot of gouging and thrusting now. ;)

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« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2013, 03:47:25 am »

I wonder, Stamper, where would you rather live today: North Korea at al, or the "basket cases" Spain at al?

No I wouldn't want to live in North Korea. I am not a supporter of their politics and Spain isn't a healthy place to live at this time. If China decides to withdraw the trillions of dollars that they have invested in the USA then one of the two above will look attractive. There will be tumble weeds blowing down every town and city in the USA not just Dodge city. The only reason that the USA is functioning at the moment is because China has propped them up. Now is that communist China or capitalist China that is the USA's saviour? ;)

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Re: World Economics Fully Explained At Last
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2013, 05:21:17 am »

I see... so it is only your "desire" stands between you and a $1bln  :D


In a generous mood, I assume that's your idea of humour.

However, in case it's not, perhaps some clarification might help you understand.

People come in many shapes and sizes and as many mental make-ups. In my own case, I have always been attracted to, and even obsessed with beauty and its pursuit. I left school at a time when the immediate choices were further education, two compulsory years in one of the military branches or a job that brought with it a deferment from the miltary. I took the latter option and, consequently, picked up skills that have been of some use to me. Eventually, the call-up thing was ended as a waste of lives and young peoples' opportunities because works was available in post-war reconstruction and keeping people under a military blanket was no longer a useful way of massaging the employment/unemployment figures. (Perhaps more importantly, keeping the dregs of empire together was realised to be little more than a drain on resources, a money-sink without bottom - something that in some ways it still is, long after empire.) That change allowed me to quit industry and become a photographer.

Anyway, my priorities, as I said, were beauty and being near it. Hence photography.

Money. I believe that money, per se, has limited appeal. It is only if you have never had any, or never  known closely people who do have a lot of it, that you think it the most desirable thing in the world. The reality is that everyone needs enough (a variable), and when there is enough to sustain your desired style of living, excess of it has to be found a use. And that isn't as easy as you might think. And with it comes responsibility that can dominate your life and take away the very freedoms that you imagined you were trying to win for yourself in the first place. You realise you've invented another treadmill for yourself.

In the days of the football pools, there were stories about winners who found themselves broke within a few short years. I would not be surprised to learn that the same still happens in the day of the mega lottery wins. If that doesn't tell you all you ever needed to know about money, then nothing will.

But, narrowing it down further to myself, as I know you want me to do, I am not of the very rich because I don't have the desire, the mental abilities nor dedication to the pursuit of money that that requires.

But, I have always had the freedom to embark upon that quest had it appealed to me. That, my friend, your politcal views - so far - can't steal from me.

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Re: World Economics Fully Explained At Last
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2013, 05:43:35 am »

No I wouldn't want to live in North Korea. I am not a supporter of their politics and Spain isn't a healthy place to live at this time. If China decides to withdraw the trillions of dollars that they have invested in the USA then one of the two above will look attractive. There will be tumble weeds blowing down every town and city in the USA not just Dodge city. The only reason that the USA is functioning at the moment is because China has propped them up. Now is that communist China or capitalist China that is the USA's saviour? ;)


But Spain is a healthy place in which to live right now; it is not a healthy place in which to try and sell a property at this precise moment, but few places are. What always goes unnoticed is this: 26% unemployment still seems to suggest that the remaining 74% is doing reasonably well. In fact, probably very much better than you think or the figures show. The very high self-employment and employment costs here as well as the high VAT levels tend to encourage a black economy. That shows up as poor employment figures that are not telling the whole truth behind them. Folks are not buying lots of new cars because they might have to explain how they can, right now, but many are doing very well, thank you.

If China were to do as you suggest, where would China sell its product? The rich Chinese want the luxury the West can sell to it, and for their standard of living to grow they, in turn, have to sell outside their own land. Fortress economics haven't shown themselves to offer very much...

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« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2013, 06:02:11 am »

Rob, the propaganda on British TV doesn't paint a pretty picture of Spain nor the UK for that matter. As to selling properties the last thing you want is another bubble but some seem to be clamouring for one as to a means of profit. The Chinese has a lot of markets, the USA is just one of them. You are right to point out they want to sell but they don't want the USA to dictate to them on politics. I saw a program recently on TV about the investment that China has in the USA. It significant to the point that they may actually be in control of sections of the USA economy. A frightening prospect. Also controlling parts of Africa.

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« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2013, 06:22:41 am »

What always goes unnoticed is this: 26% unemployment still seems to suggest that the remaining 74% is doing reasonably well. In fact, probably very much better than you think or the figures show.

pffffff, might I suggest very friendly that you perhaps contribute more to the right-hemisphere activities that you seem to excel at?

The actually employed part of the working population usually pay for the retirees, disabled, and unemployed. Clearly, there is a limit to the sustainability of that situation with pensionfunds crashing and unemployment increasing. Unless of course you're one of those hardcore right-wingers. F**k the retirees, disabled, and unemployed… (Oh wait, you're retired yourself.)

1. A country's value = assets + productivity,
2. assets decrease because pensionfunds crash,
3. productivity decreases because unemployment increases,

Number 3 is very important, because a country can have all the resources in the world, but without productivity that is useless. And then there is the proverbial straw for this camel's back:

4. decreased productivity equates decreased tax-income

Clear enough?
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« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2013, 08:48:50 am »

That's what this list is missing--North Korean economics!   :D :D :D


In North Korea:

- You have 2 cows
- Both are government agents
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« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2013, 11:11:16 am »

That's the stupidest post on LuLa in a long while. And believe me, the competition has been tough.
the stupidiest thing is to suggest that everything is only a matter of your own desire...
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Re: World Economics Fully Explained At Last
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2013, 11:55:57 am »

... Now is that communist China or capitalist China that is the USA's saviour? ;)

Good question, Stamper.

Not about saving the USA, but the first part: is China communist or capitalist?. With the fastest growing number of billionaires on this planet, it is certainly not the communism I know. Nor with the spread between Chinese poor and rich, which exceeds by far the ones in most capitalist countries. Is it communism that made them so rich (some) or is it capitalism?
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