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Ctein on PSD's
« on: May 30, 2013, 10:38:58 AM »

Given the Adobe CS in the cloud developments this is timely.
From The Online Photographer blog.
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Re: Ctein on PSD's
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2013, 10:44:31 AM »

The URL underlying your hot link seems to be missing a "t" right at the front of the string, which prevents it from working. At least did so on my computer. You may wish to verify.
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Re: Ctein on PSD's
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2013, 11:02:30 AM »

One of the obvious methods of archivally future-proofing your collection is to print your work on archivally stable media and put it in an organized and carefully stored collection.  Future generations won't keep your hard drives or DVDs or whatever.  Printing ensures you have a real copy.
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2013, 11:06:42 AM »

I agree with this; one will still be able to enjoy photographs printed on paper long after all this technology we are now using has gone the way of the Dodo bird. But these days a great many people are no longer printing. Ctein's solution still makes sense as a safety measure usable over the medium term future.
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Re: Ctein on PSD's
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2013, 11:09:32 AM »

I was thinking about this article from Ctein's website. It has been very influential in my thinking.

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/06/eight-ways-to-preserve-your-pictures.html
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Re: Ctein on PSD's
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2013, 11:19:24 AM »

The URL underlying your hot link seems to be missing a "t" right at the front of the string, which prevents it from working. At least did so on my computer. You may wish to verify.
This should do it:
Ctein on PSD's
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Re: Ctein on PSD's
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2013, 01:37:25 PM »

Here is the take on archival file formats from the dpbestflow folks (American Society of Media Photogrpahers, for the Library of Congress)

http://dpbestflow.org/node/371

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Re: Ctein on PSD's
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2013, 01:52:12 PM »

Here is the take on archival file formats from the dpbestflow folks (American Society of Media Photogrpahers, for the Library of Congress)

http://dpbestflow.org/node/371

kirk

I found that to be an interesting article.

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Re: Ctein on PSD's
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2013, 03:21:16 PM »

I've been saying pretty much the same thing about PSD files for years...this is my now somewhat famous (or infamous) response to a question of whether PDS or TIFF was a better file format...Why Use Tiff?
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2013, 03:56:12 PM »

I've been saying pretty much the same thing about PSD files for years...this is my now somewhat famous (or infamous) response to a question of whether PDS or TIFF was a better file format...Why Use Tiff?
I've been listening to the Gospel according to Jeff Schewe long enough that I have never knowingly saved anything as a PSD.

Yet I still see frequent posts on LuLa from people worrying about the state of their PSDs.

I have a question for anybody willing to answer it: Why does anybody in this day and age use PSDs?

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Re: Ctein on PSD's
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2013, 12:33:22 AM »

I've been listening to the Gospel according to Jeff Schewe long enough that I have never knowingly saved anything as a PSD.

Yet I still see frequent posts on LuLa from people worrying about the state of their PSDs.

I have a question for anybody willing to answer it: Why does anybody in this day and age use PSDs?

Bewildered,

Eric M.




The only reason why I occasionally use a psd file is by mistake.  When I discover the mistake, I reopen, resave as a tiff and delete the psd file.  The info in the thread that Jeff linked to above killed psd use for me.
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Re: Ctein on PSD's
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2013, 03:12:47 PM »

I was thinking about this article from Ctein's website. It has been very influential in my thinking.

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/06/eight-ways-to-preserve-your-pictures.html

To be clear, this is Mike Johnston's website, for which Ctein is a regular guest blogger. The post linked to is written by Johnston, not Ctein. Now carry on! :)

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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2013, 03:31:41 PM »

To be clear, this is Mike Johnston's website, for which Ctein is a regular guest blogger. The post linked to is written by Johnston, not Ctein. Now carry on! :)

Oh yeah?
"This week's column by Ctein"
"2013 by Ctein, all rights reserved"

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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2013, 03:40:18 PM »

Is there anything in Adobes license forbidding me from setting up a webserver that accepts PSD files and returns tiff files (running a regular Adobe CC app)?

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Re: Ctein on PSD's
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2013, 11:35:10 AM »

Why use Tiff? No reason not to. But I haven't given up on PSD quite yet. Because:

 -big 16-bit PSD files open and save much faster than Zip Tiffs. (Granted, I haven't tested this in a while, but when I did the difference was significant.) With the fast processors and gobs of RAM available these days, the opening and saving of files has become, by elimination, my biggest processing bottleneck.
 -when I see a PSD file in a folder on my computer, I know that it's the main, full resolution, working version of a photo. Of course, that has nothing to do with the quality of the format. It's just part of a system that evolved as an easy shorthand for my purposes. (Raw files in one folder called, aptly, "Raw." PSD working files in another folder called, "PSD." Final TIFFs for delivery in a third folder called, "to deliver.")
 -when the Photoshop apocalypse is imminent, I'll do what Ctein suggests. Until then, I'm not sure there's a big hurry. When I installed Lightroom, I had to re-save all my "un-maximized" Photoshop files to satisfy its limitations, and that was a frustrating pain in the neck, but I got through it. Now I have Lightroom itself, and other tools, to make the job pretty easy.

Long story short, I don't think file format choice has to be an all-or-nothing decision, and not one I have to make today.
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Re: Ctein on PSD's
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2013, 06:40:20 AM »

Oh yeah?
"This week's column by Ctein"
"2013 by Ctein, all rights reserved"

I meant the article linked to by fike and quoted in my post.

Love your puerile response, by the way.

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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2013, 07:29:06 AM »

Not puerile, just misguided. ;)

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Re: Ctein on PSD's
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2013, 08:55:05 AM »

Yikes!  So I have to admit, I got a lot of PSD's.  Does someone have an action or something to convert them to TIFF's? 
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Re: Ctein on PSD's
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2013, 09:49:58 AM »

Photoshop's image Processor can be fast and easy:  Open folder of psds in Bridge.  Select all or desired psd files to be saved as tiff files.  Then: Tools > Photoshop > Image Processor.  Check 'Save as TIFF' under File Type in the Image Processor dialog box, also check Include ICC profile under Preferences.(assuming you want this). Decide where to save tiffs -- if you select 'Save in Same Location' a folder named TIFF will be created and tiffs saved there.
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« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2013, 10:02:44 AM »

I presume these do not replace the PSDs, but simply add the new files?
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