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Re: Gone
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2013, 07:56:58 PM »

Funny Russ, we posted our comments only two minutes apart, and I guess you did not have the chance to read mine (which basically agrees with yours and Andrew's point).

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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2013, 08:33:51 PM »

Great image, Russ.  I like Slobodan's image as well, but as mentioned, they're completely different images.  Your image does look a little oversharpened in the foreground - jpg compression for sure - but at the same time it almost adds to the 'dustbowl' effect - the plants dried to a crisp.

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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2013, 09:22:20 PM »

Funny Russ, we posted our comments only two minutes apart, and I guess you did not have the chance to read mine (which basically agrees with yours and Andrew's point).

Right, Slobodan. I was in a rush and I didn't see your comment before I posted. But yes, they're different images and I'll say again that I like your crop. It's a different subject but it's a very good picture.

If I didn't have commitments this coming week I'd drive back out there and do some more shooting. That little house is one of the few like it remaining in eastern Colorado. It's about a 160 mile round trip though, and I'm afraid that by the time I'd get back out there the trees would be leafed out, which isn't what I want.

Thanks, Mike. Yes, it looks a bit crunchy to me too, but the PSD and the print don't show the crunchiness. I needed to do a reasonable amount of sharpening because the delicacy of those branches is important to what I was after.

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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2013, 09:36:13 PM »

These are two very fine takes on the scene. Now I'd like to see something like Slobodan's treatment but keeping Russ's original cropping. It should be easy to make the road that bothers some viewers practically disappear.

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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2013, 10:01:40 PM »

... I'd like to see something like Slobodan's treatment but keeping Russ's original cropping. It should be easy to make the road that bothers some viewers practically disappear...

Not a bad idea (I also reduced the grain effect a bit):

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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2013, 04:02:08 AM »

Not a bad idea (I also reduced the grain effect a bit):


Slobodan, you're so effing European!

;-)

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« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2013, 08:11:08 AM »

I like this forum so much, because we can agree and still find things to talk about. You know, like normal people having a normal conversation! It's wonderful.
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« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2013, 10:03:18 AM »

Not a bad idea (I also reduced the grain effect a bit):
That's it!

I was actually thinking of requesting a bit of reduction of the grain, but I didn't want to seem greedy.

Now, how do I order a print from Russ/Slobodan Enterprises?   ;)

I love it!

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Re: Gone
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2013, 10:45:21 AM »


Slobodan, you're so effing European!

;-)

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« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2013, 10:48:58 AM »

That's it!

I was actually thinking of requesting a bit of reduction of the grain, but I didn't want to seem greedy.

Now, how do I order a print from Russ/Slobodan Enterprises?   ;)

I love it!

Eric M.




Easier than going the PayBuddy route: you send the order to Russ, who sends it to Slobodan (like any reasonable wholesale operation) and then you send the cheque to me, because I can clear it more easily because I live on a semi-European island... You see? Not a problem at all. Don't hesitate, not even for a moment.

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« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2013, 11:08:49 AM »

Ok, I'll send you a cashier's check, Rob. It's just about $US5000 too high, so you can just wire the change back to me!
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« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2013, 11:24:07 AM »

Yes. Another good picture. That's three from a single exposure and the third was done without cropping! I like the vignetting even more than the square format crop, Slobodan. But again, the change emphasizes the house and subdues the trees. It's good but a different subject. I was really lucky with the clouds. Colorado's been bone-dry for months, but we drove back in through rainstorms.
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« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2013, 01:52:05 PM »

Ok, I'll send you a cashier's check, Rob. It's just about $US5000 too high, so you can just wire the change back to me!


Great! Just as soon as it arrives I'd do my part over here!

I have an alternative scheme where you can send funds upfront before you actually buy any images: the funds sit here in a special account and make interest for you, so that when you do purchase, you often don't even have to send more money! Isn't that nice?

I have friends in Nigeria who are able to invest those monies when they go over the million bucks; much safer there, and carry with them the opportunity of further diversification into the oil business. We understand that some oil tycoons are especially fond of the image business and might consider running a collective of sorts, where photographers can send their pictures with a guarantee of not getting an insulting 50% return anymore.

Exciting times in which we live!

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Re: Gone
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2013, 08:23:56 AM »

Luv the image Russ, well spotted.
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« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2013, 10:50:20 AM »

Slobodan, I have to tell you: I finally tried a slightly less dramatic vignetting without the added grain, and I'm going to print and hang the result. It's a different picture, but I like it very much. I usually hate to hang prints that show post-processing, but this is an exception. Thanks. Good thinking.

I think the result shows how stupid it is for any critique forum not to permit demonstrations of suggested changes without explicit permission from the OP. There's really no way Slobodan could have described in words what he was thinking as completely and convincingly as he could with a simple visual demonstration.

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« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2013, 10:57:50 AM »

How interesting!

How do you plan to hang the two versions, Russ? Will they be visible simultaneously? Opposite one another? Or quite separated.

How things are hung is something of an interest of mine. If they were opposite, you'd be able to see one reflected in the other at some times of the day, which can be a tremendously powerful effect for the astute observer.
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« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2013, 11:03:37 AM »

I like Slobodan's version. The original is nice, but it's almost a "tweener", it needs either more road or no road, IMO.

I've traveled in the same area on a similar day and there's a lot of desolate, abandoned beauty all around.
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Re: Gone
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2013, 11:20:19 AM »

Slobodan, I have to tell you: I finally tried a slightly less dramatic vignetting without the added grain, and I'm going to print and hang the result. It's a different picture, but I like it very much. I usually hate to hang prints that show post-processing, but this is an exception. Thanks. Good thinking.

I think the result shows how stupid it is for any critique forum not to permit demonstrations of suggested changes without explicit permission from the OP. There's really no way Slobodan could have described in words what he was thinking as completely and convincingly as he could with a simple visual demonstration.

Hear hear!

I think your re-imagining works very well, Russ.
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« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2013, 11:42:41 AM »

Haven't decided yet, Andrew. I need to lay out both, side-by-side, in my studio and glance at them as I walk by for a few days. Then I'll decide. I have a lot of wall space in corridors in the lower part of our hillside house where we converted the original integral garage into workrooms and storage spaces. I already have several pairs of related pictures hung one above the other along the halls. I'll probably do something similar with these. I may even decide in the end that I like Slobodan's version better and hang it by itself. Time will tell.

Sorry Larry, I don't agree. As I said, I was conflicted about the road when I got out of the car, but I couldn't keep the whole row of trees to camera left without including at least some of the road, so that removed all doubt. I've since come to the view that the road is an essential part of the picture.

There's still some wabi sabi out there on the prairies, but not nearly as much as there used to be when I started photographing this part of the country back in the sixties. Check http://www.russ-lewis.com/photo_gallery/Ruins/index.html. Or, for comments on the subject along with pictures: http://www.russ-lewis.com/Voices/intro.html.

And Doug, it was Slobodan's re-imagining. I just used part of his idea.

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« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2013, 12:32:56 PM »

I like your last version, Russ.

I think that my version, darker and grainy, would look rather well on a heavy, textured, watercolor paper, or even canvas. It seems to me that yours would print rather nicely on a metallic paper.

As to darker vs. lighter versions, this reminds me how Ansel Adams printed some of his most famous photographs progressively darker and darker as the years went by. What it tells me is that I am getting older. It also tells me that you must be younger than me (in spirit) than your age would suggest :)
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