Adobe doesn't mention OTHER Creative Cloud Benefit

[Michael West]

In all the discussion of the benefits of the Creative Cloud nowhere have I read there mentioning the "Creative Clouds" imperviousness to Theft.

I doubt there will be any websites offering Free copies of Photoshop when the Creative Cloud is The SOLE purveyor of Adobe software

[Ben Rubinstein]

Dream on.

[yaredna]

In all the discussion of the benefits of the Creative Cloud nowhere have I read there mentioning the "Creative Clouds" imperviousness to Theft.

I doubt there will be any websites offering Free copies of Photoshop when the Creative Cloud is The SOLE purveyor of Adobe software

Right... Wake-up, man. The software is NOT run on Adobe's servers, it is downloaded and run on your machine. The only difference is the activation process.

Wanna bet we will see CC versions floating on torrent and in some countries in south east asia within a week from launch?

Software is software. It will be hacked. The Adobe previous activation system punished us, paying customers, while pirates continued pirating. The rental is going to be the same story.

[Michael West]

I had not paid close enough attention to the "facts of the cloud". was embarrassingly unaware that the software would not be browser based.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

I had not paid close enough attention to the "facts of the cloud". was embarrassingly unaware that the software would not be browser based.

Even so, kids hack into Pentagon and NASA, for god's sake.

[Schewe]

Even so, kids hack into Pentagon and NASA, for god's sake.

Kids? Or North Korea and/or China's military? Don't spread FUD...be sure you blame the real bad guys...

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Kids? Or North Korea and/or China's military? Don't spread FUD...be sure you blame the real bad guys...

See this:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Greek-Teenager-Arrested-for-Hacking-into-Pentagon-FBI-and-NSA-205040.shtml

[Schewe]

Dateline June 8th, 2011 about hacks from 2008/2009...old news in internet years!

What do you got from the last 6 months?

That's why I referred to North Korea (bringing the South Korean banking system down a couple of months ago) and China hacking into the NY Times (later last year).

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

What do you got from the last 6 months?

Hi Jeff,

Companies/governments do not like to disclose such intelligence about security breaches, but even something as a DDOS attack can cripple large parts of society, as many people became aware of last month in the Netherlands when they could not pay for their groceries at the checkout counter. Their bank was, for several days, under a DDOS attack (which is not the same as breaking in and stealing money, but merely creating enough traffic to swamp the log-in servers and slow them to a grind).

http://www.ddosattacks.net/ has some more news on that type of disruptions (pretty annoying if it happens when your CC subscription is verified).

We do not need to exaggerate such issues, but downplaying such issues is as foolish as ignoring them. We should take them seriously, and try to find ways of reducing the risk, instead of increasing it.

Cheers,
Bart

P.S. just happened to stumble on this report:
Washington state courts hacked; potentially up to 160,000 Social Security numbers accessed

The breach happened due to vulnerability in an Adobe Systems Inc. software program, ColdFusion, that has since been patched, court officials said.

[Slobodan Blagojevic]

Dateline June 8th, 2011 about hacks from 2008/2009...old news in internet years!

What do you got from the last 6 months?

That's why I referred to North Korea (bringing the South Korean banking system down a couple of months ago) and China hacking into the NY Times (later last year).

Jeff,

I appreciate the restrained response. In retrospective, that's how my own post could and should have been as well. I guess I was too much under the influence of the tone of the debate raging in other Adobe threads recently. I edited my post subsequently.

However, my point is that it can be done, and that even kids can do it, let alone governments.

If someone doubts that governments have any interest in Photoshop, just remember the The Axis of Photoshop Evil Doers: Iran, North Korea, etc. 

Looks like that, as of recently, even Adobe joined the Axis.

[Rob C]

It's a case of Pandora's Electonic Box. (Not being rude here.)

Was a time I felt life was 'normal' and one could carry on doing much what one had been doing or, alternatively, change everything around, but at least that latter option felt under some sort of control.

Today, things control us.

For example, for no good reason or even any act of mine, my computer's toolbar has leaped from running neatly along the bottom edge of the screen to a new, stupid position along the right edge. This means all the windows I open and view are now narrower and my Desktop layout has been effed. Try as I might, dragging the thing only widens it and there is no way I can find of relocating it peacefully at the bottom of the monitor again. Thank you, Vista, for your new party piece.

You see what I mean about losing control?

Rob C

[Gothmoth]

http://macperformanceguide.com/blog/2013/20130508_1a-Adobe-legal-agreement.html

pretty scary if you ask me....

[Gothmoth]

Dateline June 8th, 2011 about hacks from 2008/2009...old news in internet years!

What do you got from the last 6 months?

well who cares?

kids did hack it.. he is right so accept it for gods sake.
no need to try to have the last word every time.

[Ronny Nilsen]

Hi Jeff,

Companies/governments do not like to disclose such intelligence about security breaches, but even something as a DDOS attack can cripple large parts of society, as many people became aware of last month in the Netherlands when they could not pay for their groceries at the checkout counter. Their bank was, for several days, under a DDOS attack (which is not the same as breaking in and stealing money, but merely creating enough traffic to swamp the log-in servers and slow them to a grind).

http://www.ddosattacks.net/ has some more news on that type of disruptions (pretty annoying if it happens when your CC subscription is verified).

We do not need to exaggerate such issues, but downplaying such issues is as foolish as ignoring them. We should take them seriously, and try to find ways of reducing the risk, instead of increasing it.

Cheers,
Bart

P.S. just happened to stumble on this report:
Washington state courts hacked; potentially up to 160,000 Social Security numbers accessed

These days you have crime as a service. For $20 you can pay for an DDOS attack and they will even guarantee that they take down the site for the period paid for, or you will get your money back. Operating out of Russia. You don´t even have to be a script kiddie any more, just pay to crash and take down whatever you don´t like.   

Ronny

[Schewe]

We do not need to exaggerate such issues, but downplaying such issues is as foolish as ignoring them. We should take them seriously, and try to find ways of reducing the risk, instead of increasing it.

Exactly how do you think I was ignoring them?

The fact that NYTs actually admitted their hacking (and other media companies also admitted they were hacked) is an important breakthrough.

There are white hats and black hats...

[32BT]

We do not need to exaggerate such issues, but downplaying such issues is as foolish as ignoring them. We should take them seriously, and try to find ways of reducing the risk, instead of increasing it.

+1, also note that these days "upsetting people" seems to guarantee a DDoS attack sooner rather than later. Doesn't particularly matter who is being upset and for what reason.

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

Exactly how do you think I was ignoring them?

Slobodan responded to Michael that not only browser based (Cloud) products/services carry some risk, and that nobody is invulnerable, even The FBI and NASA. In other words, relying on an internet connection to be able and conduct your business (think subscription verification in order to remotely shut down software) carries operational risk (amongst others). Seems like a good observation to me.

However, you responded:

Kids? Or North Korea and/or China's military? Don't spread FUD...be sure you blame the real bad guys...

and later:

Dateline June 8th, 2011 about hacks from 2008/2009...old news in internet years!

What do you got from the last 6 months?

I could be mistaken, but that sounds like downplaying the vulnerabilities/risks and the frequency of occurrence, which would be as foolish as ignoring them.

Cheers,
Bart

[Bart_van_der_Wolf]

+1, also note that these days "upsetting people" seems to guarantee a DDoS attack sooner rather than later. Doesn't particularly matter who is being upset and for what reason.

Exactly. It's modern day anarchy, and even kids can do it (even if they do not understand the issues or the consequences). It takes very little to upset some people, so it is not just something theoretical.  

A system that can be shut down so easily, without a means to access one's own work in progress, is not smart. Not offering a perpetual usage option as a contingency measure is even foolish, as is downplaying it.

Cheers,
Bart

[Rob C]

Would I be being foolish if I saw this as an opportunity to turn back the tide to film and real papers?

Imagine for a moment, if you dare: the real thing again!

Rob C