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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2013, 05:16:20 AM »

Use disk manager to partition your HD into two drives and then when installing your new OS tell it to install in the new partition.
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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2013, 05:58:11 AM »

Hi,

I believe I remember some hinting about panoramic stitching in the Advanced Guide to Lightroom 4 series. :-) Is the LR 5 feature complete? Or have they saved some good bits for the final release?

Cheers,

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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2013, 06:04:47 AM »

Not sure what you mean. You paint in the area you want to disappear, then choose the area with the same shape you want to replace it. Lightroom makes an automatic selection of that area, but not always very well, so you can move it.
The CS6 spot healing brush does not require a replacement area. The LR5 implementation is an improvement over older version, both in the ability to paint and, it seems, in the implementation algorithms, but it's not as good as the CS6 spot healing brush. The LR5 version is closer to the CS6 healing brush than the CS6 spot healing brush. Perhaps the difference is CS6's content aware technology.

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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2013, 07:12:46 AM »

Hmmm....no reports yet about speed issues. Are you guys REALLY  testing it?  ;) ;D

I haven't run into any, although I ran into very few with Lr4 so I may not be a good judge.  It does seem a little more speedy when healing dust spots.

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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2013, 08:23:38 AM »

I'll have to download this to try it. I didn't expect a lot of updated features (getting hard to do we have most stuff covered)
I hope the performance is better, LR4 isn't that fast even on fairly meaty pc hardware it's the no. 1 area for improvement IMO

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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2013, 09:13:03 AM »

Hi all,

when trying to create a new catalog, Lr 5ß 1 crashes   :(.

OS is Windows 8 64-bit with all MS fixes applied.

Lr 4.4 runs great.

Robert

Robert,

I installed the beta on my Windows 8 64 bit machine and it seems to work fine on preliminary testing. A new catalog was created with no problems. This shows that it can work with Win8.

Bill
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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2013, 09:19:20 AM »

Quote from: stamper
Hmmm....no reports yet about speed issues. Are you guys REALLY  testing it?  Wink Grin

I haven't run into any, although I ran into very few with Lr4 so I may not be a good judge.  It does seem a little more speedy when healing dust spots.

Take a look at the smart previews feature. Select some images which have smart previews generated, then rename the images' folder in Explorer/Finder. Lightroom 5 will now use the smart preview for adjustments, which should be much faster because the raw data in now much smaller. Afterwards, return the folder to its correct name.
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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2013, 10:13:49 AM »

Hmmm....no reports yet about speed issues. Are you guys REALLY  testing it?  ;) ;D
I downloaded it last night on a rather old dual-core AMD Thunderbird platform with W7-64bit. With LR4 this is quite slow. I imported a couple of D800 nef's to give it a quick try before going to bed. The import was amazingly quick. So i doublechecked this morning if it really were those 75MB nef files from the D800, yes they are. So far it is quite fast, also have experenced a couple of crashes or hang-up's so i will not install it on my production environment, but will do on my test environment (previous production environment) this evening.
Played a bit with the smart healing on portraits, and that too works fast en quite well i must say. The only issue i found, but has little to do with the functionality, is that if you have shallow depth of field it picks a part to use for the healing that is in the unsharp regions, thus a mismatch for healing  spot in the shapr region.
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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #50 on: April 16, 2013, 10:21:55 AM »

Hmmm....no reports yet about speed issues. Are you guys REALLY  testing it?  ;) ;D

It's par for the course that speed optimization takes place towards the very end of a beta cycle. IOW, if anything feel's sluggish, don't dismiss this as what the final version may feel like. Of course if you find something really slow, file a report.
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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2013, 10:32:31 AM »

Hello Peter,

I think it's pretty simple.  We both "pay" for the software.  Personally, I'd rather pay for something I might have had a small part in making better and/or more suitable for my own selfish needs vs. paying for well.. you get what you get.  I don't think I'm getting cheated, I've written plenty of code in my life... and I'm paying for the nicety of not having too.  Of course, opinions vary. 

Regards,

John

Good point, John - I was being too harsh.
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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2013, 10:57:12 AM »

The LR journal says that the beta is not a full version release.   I'm sure they've just included the pieces where they feel additional testing is helpful.

Given the hints on the last LR tutorial and the delay in Jeff's Printing book I am expecting to see more functionality added at final release.   HDR, Stitching, and some type of enhancement to the print section seem to be reasonable guesses at this point.   Is two months of beta testing the average turnaround for Adobe?

Me, I am wishing for Sigma DPxM raw support. 
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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #54 on: April 16, 2013, 11:30:27 AM »

Did they add new features after releasing public betas for prior versions of LR?

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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2013, 11:41:27 AM »

The journal site has this sentence:

IMPORTANT NOTES, PLEASE READ
Primary Known Issues
■Lightroom 5 beta is not complete but please provide feedback on the available enhancements.

so it's not unreasonable to expect that there is more to come.   My suggestions above are just speculation but they are based on various comments over the past year.

We currently have to round trip to CS6 for HDR but the raw pipeline and process 2012 was built with HDR in mind.  If CS6 is just doing the layering and alignment it doesn't seem too much of a stretch to see it in this release.  Stitching and Stacked focus have to be on the near horizon too.  Excellent, I just noticed this:   :P

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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #56 on: April 16, 2013, 11:54:24 AM »

The journal site has this sentence:

IMPORTANT NOTES, PLEASE READ
Primary Known Issues
■Lightroom 5 beta is not complete but please provide feedback on the available enhancements.

so it's not unreasonable to expect that there is more to come.   My suggestions above are just speculation but they are based on various comments over the past year.
I think that you over-interpret that sentence. It may mean anything or nothing. Just like "may contain nuts" is no solid indicator that a bag of crisps actually contains nuts.

It makes sense to add significant features / restructuring early on in the development cycle. Then you will have many stages of testing (and time to polish things) before the regular customer swipes her VISA card.

Now, perhaps HDR/pano/focus stacking in 5.1?

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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2013, 12:45:37 PM »

The Adobe team sure make some great features. Just whacked some architecture pictures, and the speed of analysis to make sloppy wide angle pictures is impressive.

The spot heal tools are much better now. I am still would have preferred the same type of spot healing brush as in Photoshop. The brush is not precise enough and doesn't make for an easy or acceptable job in LR5 beta for beauty pix. 

The Radial tool albeit seemingly reversed is quite good, adaptable. I cannot figure out why you have to invert the mask to make the select area applicable?

I don't use books so no comment.

Speed seems +/- like a new catalogue in LR4. I have an old Mac Pro anyway which is now relatively slow at everything.

Happy that there are no glaring sweeping changes, as it is such great application for what I do. The changes are small in the UI thus easy to adjust workflow to.

Might have been nice to be on par with C1 with the colour grading in skin tones, etc, but with the Adobe flare in UI design.

I am also happy that LR is still a love between the dev team and users. It shows, is felt and appreciated.

Oh forgot the Smart Preview is good enough reason alone to upgrade. For traveling photographers a perfect way to edit images without having the volume present.
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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2013, 02:27:33 PM »

Use disk manager to partition your HD into two drives and then when installing your new OS tell it to install in the new partition.

ok, thanks...i'll look into doing this...any idea how big the partition needs to be?...besides the OS i guess i'd have LR5, just the application, maybe CS6 as well...think that's all i'd need...
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Re: LR 5 Public Beta is live.
« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2013, 03:39:17 PM »

The Radial tool albeit seemingly reversed is quite good, adaptable. I cannot figure out why you have to invert the mask to make the select area applicable?

It depends on what you want to use it for.  Over the years we received many requests for off-center vignettes (think post-crop vignette, but positionable) so we decided to make that the default orientation (direction) of the Radial Filter. 

Of course, different photographers take different approaches to editing their images.  For example, if you're trying to draw attention to your subject, you can do so by directly emphasizing the subject (use a radial filter with effect on the "inside") or by de-emphasizing the background (use a radial filter with effect on the "outside").

The Radial Filter "invert" setting should be sticky, so if you prefer to have the effect be on the "inside" you can just check the box and leave it that way.   :)
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