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Re: Coffee Pot Recommendations
« Reply #80 on: June 07, 2018, 08:19:28 am »

 Les, that is indeed very interesting and informative. I can still remember the TV ads from the 50's and 60's extolling the benefits and the necessity of drinking your milk.
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« Reply #81 on: June 07, 2018, 08:48:07 am »

The problem and sad reality is that even today, the TV ads, many doctors, and of course the National Dairy Council still extol the alleged milk benefits.
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« Reply #82 on: June 07, 2018, 09:30:40 am »

The problem and sad reality is that even today, the TV ads, many doctors, and of course the National Dairy Council still extol the alleged milk benefits.

I wonder why...it only helped humanity prosper the last 200,000 years ;)

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« Reply #83 on: June 07, 2018, 09:44:14 am »

Milk is definitely more nutritious than no food. Especially, in the previous 200,000 years when the average longevity was less than 40 years, the short-term benefit of milk consumption was indeed helpful.

DISCLOSURE: I don't own any shares or other interest in dairy, meat, vegetable or pharma industries. Nor in publishing of health books. My mission is not to convert anyone, just to expose the myths and dangers propagated by unscrupuluos food companies, doctors with limited knowledge of nutrition, and pharma industry capitalizing on the deeds committed by the former two.
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« Reply #84 on: June 07, 2018, 01:03:20 pm »

One spoon of milk in a cup of coffee or tea won't kill you, but a more substantial intake of dairy products may.
I posted previously in several threads links about myths and dangers of dairy consumption, but now the proof is in. A friend of mine (in her sixties) who got inspired by Amy Lanou's book "Building Bone Vitality" just got back her lab results after a year of modified diet and almost unbelievably, her bone loss not only stopped, but actually the bone density has increased (exactly as the book author predicted).

You believe that one set of results from one person which follow an inspiration of an unspecified nature constitutes "proof"? The mind boggles.

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« Reply #85 on: June 07, 2018, 01:44:05 pm »

One personally confirmed case, but I read the above mentioned book, that examined thousands of studies, and the author described her own situation how she reversed her bone density, and then I recommended the book to my friend who was just confronted with her own bone density loss. She has a scientific background and actually she is quite skeptical of various quack recipes, but  the book and the approach seemed well founded, so she took it seriously and followed the recommendations in the book and after one year she repeated the lab test, and to her delight the results about the bone density reversal were better than expected and very encouraging. Also physically she feels better than before.

On the other hand, I know a few other ladies, who keep eating dairy and meat, and they all have deteriorating bones and joints. So as far as I can see, there seems to be a certain correlation between consumption of dairy and bone problems. That is only my personal observation, but more importantly, I read other materials that documented the adverse results of dairy consumption, and regrettably, on the other hand I witnessed several medical professionals still recommending the alleged benefits of milk, that's why a real case of someone I know and trust is more reliable for me than the TV milk ads and guidelines of the National Dairy Council.

After getting her lab results, my friend now spoke to several of her friends, who value her knowledge, reputation, and judgment, and at least one of them already ordered that book. Maybe next year, she'll be able to supply more evidence, but in the meantime, you can read the book extract on the Amazon site, or borrow the book from your library, so you can review it yourself.
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« Reply #86 on: June 07, 2018, 02:45:26 pm »

A quick search indicates that this is the fifth thread in which you have posted a link to that particular book. I think I can do no better than to respond as I responded to this post of yours.

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Well, I've certainly no intention of spending actual money on it, so I suppose I have to accept that I'll never know for sure, but the extracts I could read using Amazon's "look inside" feature strongly suggest that it's complete drivel. Another pointer to that supposition is that none of its ideas appear to have become widely accepted in the near-decade since its publication.

As someone once shrewdly commented, "the plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'".

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« Reply #87 on: June 07, 2018, 03:20:11 pm »

Jeremy, there are definitely conflicting opinions on this subject, and the above mentioned book is only one of many stating the benefits of plant based food and negative effects of dairy. I didn't post it to win any arguments, I shared this information to make people aware of the latest findings.

If only one person in thousands will take time and educate herself on this subject (the bone density problem is more prevalent in women than in men), then this information may save a bone fracture, and potentially a life. The good thing is that the other 999 people will contribute to the wellbeing of many dairy farmers and retailers. 
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« Reply #88 on: June 07, 2018, 04:15:32 pm »

The best science, currently, tells us that diet affects different people differently.  What would cause a massive blood sugar spike in one person (who otherwise has a normal range level) can have almost no effect on someone else of the same age, gender, size, weight, ethnicity, normal range levels, etc.

We're not at the point of being able to provide significant personalised dietary advice to individuals based on genetics and testing regimens at a consumer level and price point, but it's heading that way.

What I do find interesting is that when you take a lot of the more extreme diets (fully ketogenic, fully vegan, etc.) and then wind them back a little, you commonly come back to a diet that's very much like the so-called Mediterranean diet which itself is well founded and studied as being a pretty good "all-rounder" as being a health option for a lot of people.

It comes back to this.  "Eat food, mostly plants, not too much".
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« Reply #89 on: June 07, 2018, 05:42:35 pm »

"Eat food, mostly plants, not too much".

Sexier than SAD (Standard American Diet)
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« Reply #90 on: June 10, 2018, 07:45:28 pm »

Sexier than SAD (Standard American Diet)

Hmmm... ;)

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« Reply #91 on: June 10, 2018, 08:44:51 pm »

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« Reply #92 on: June 10, 2018, 09:35:13 pm »

Hmmm... ;)

Is it indeed a 51-year old lady (on the left)? Or is it a picture of her mother? In this case, I would say she takes it too seriously. Or she works too hard.

Could be that in addition to the butter, the good looking lady on the right also added a touch of Photoshop. Or an old-fashioned make-up. Amazing what competent make-up-artists and Photoshop experts can do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhCn0jf46U
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« Reply #93 on: June 10, 2018, 09:49:27 pm »

Slobodan, you should have posted Pamela Anderson picture. She would represent vegans in a more dignified way.



And here is a 58 year-old Joan Jett. Vegan for 20 years.
 
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« Reply #94 on: June 10, 2018, 09:50:24 pm »

Is it indeed a 51-year old lady (on the left)? Or is it a picture of her mother?...

Before posting, I googled both ladies. They are both real and pictures are more or less the same as hundreds on others found about them.

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Re: Coffee Pot Recommendations
« Reply #95 on: June 10, 2018, 10:05:49 pm »

Speaking about healthy living:


 

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« Reply #96 on: June 10, 2018, 10:13:45 pm »

Bill Clinton used to look better. I wonder what is he missing.
These comparisons are way different than Nikon vs Canon squabbles.
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« Reply #97 on: June 11, 2018, 03:10:27 am »

Is it indeed a 51-year old lady (on the left)? Or is it a picture of her mother? In this case, I would say she takes it too seriously. Or she works too hard.

Could be that in addition to the butter, the good looking lady on the right also added a touch of Photoshop. Or an old-fashioned make-up. Amazing what competent make-up-artists and Photoshop experts can do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhCn0jf46U

That is an unkind photo of MacKeith who suffered controversy when she came close to passing herself off as a doctor of medicine by buying a PhD in some other subject. She always struck me as a silly person out to make a quick buck on TV.

As for Nigella, yes makeup but probably not photoshop and she does wonderful soft food porn in a very tongue in cheek way on UK TV. She fits the fantasy of UK men of a certain age (ie my age) very well indeed. I sometimes watch her programs and I think my wife uses a couple of her recipes. It helps that she is very wealthy and is pretty clever.
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« Reply #98 on: June 11, 2018, 04:31:20 am »

Here is a different set of two substantial and contraversial persons getting a lot of attention these days. They both look well rounded.
No information about their waist size, blood pressure and sugar levels.

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« Reply #99 on: June 11, 2018, 05:07:41 am »

Is it indeed a 51-year old lady (on the left)? Or is it a picture of her mother? In this case, I would say she takes it too seriously. Or she works too hard.

Could be that in addition to the butter, the good looking lady on the right also added a touch of Photoshop. Or an old-fashioned make-up. Amazing what competent make-up-artists and Photoshop experts can do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhCn0jf46U

Not to mention proper lighting and a relatively careful pose.
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