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Ascent
« on: March 18, 2013, 01:39:37 PM »

Saint Joseph's Oratory of Mount Royal
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Re: Ascent
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2013, 07:32:59 PM »

I like the image, but I am struggling with the "over" saturated blue of the sky. IMHO, I would want to tone that down, how far would be a matter of taste, but I thinks it's intensity takes away from the nicely lit building.

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2013, 02:43:09 AM »

I like the image, but I am struggling with the "over" saturated blue of the sky. IMHO, I would want to tone that down, how far would be a matter of taste, but I thinks it's intensity takes away from the nicely lit building.

I agree.  I'd reduce the blue saturation overall, including the foreground, although you could keep it in the two windows if you want.

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Re: Ascent
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2013, 05:25:57 AM »

Pete Turner would never make it today.

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Re: Ascent
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2013, 06:03:30 AM »

I think that this photo has been taken at night and this might explain the blue saturation of the sky.

I like it very much!
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Re: Ascent
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2013, 09:19:40 AM »

Here's the solution to over saturation:

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Re: Ascent
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2013, 03:07:24 PM »

I like the image, but I am struggling with the "over" saturated blue of the sky. IMHO, I would want to tone that down, how far would be a matter of taste, but I thinks it's intensity takes away from the nicely lit building.

Actually, that shade/intensity of blue is most likely from the lighting around the church.

I've shot the Korean/American Friendship Bell in Long Beach on NYE, lit up for the occasion by the same type of lights, and the skies are identical.
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Re: Ascent
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2013, 06:08:57 PM »

I agree that we're talking esthetics and taste.
RSL-LOL. That did indeed take care of the saturation!

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Re: Ascent
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2013, 07:28:25 PM »

I read Russ's comment as suggesting that all colors except black, gray, and white be "cropped out."  ;D
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Re: Ascent
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2013, 07:37:20 PM »

Right, Eric. In this case that kind of "cropping" converts a standard tourist shot with over-saturated colors into a mysterious and gripping night scene.

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Re: Ascent
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2013, 09:29:26 PM »

I think that this photo has been taken at night and this might explain the blue saturation of the sky...

My guess is it was the so-called blue hour, i.e., the time after dusk, but before the sky turns pitch black, and the sky then can turn very intensive blue. Not sure if this is the case here, or the saturation was jacked up a bit too much, but slight adjustments to hue (perhaps a tad more magenta?) and saturation might turn it into a rather convincing shot. Otherwise, a fine composition, and yes, Pete Turner colors.

Not sure about the highlights around the cross... where does that come from?

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Re: Ascent
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2013, 03:48:29 AM »


Not sure about the highlights around the cross... where does that come from?

I've seen crosses illuminated by cross-shaped neon lights. It might be the case here.
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Re: Ascent
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2013, 07:07:12 AM »

My guess is that back then we'd have heard similar comments in the photography clubs :-)


Plus ça change...

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Re: Ascent
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2013, 11:11:29 AM »

Actually, it's neither, Isaac. It's that the picture is much better in grayscale than in color regardless of struggles.

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Re: Ascent
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2013, 12:25:53 PM »

I do think its over-saturated, but so what? Over-saturated,under-saturated or dead-on-saturated the picture's better in grayscale. That's a personal opinion of course and it's pretty obvious that opinions will vary.

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Re: Ascent
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2013, 12:39:57 PM »

So
  • you might think it's over-saturated because you don't like the color
  • you might think it's over-saturated because you don't believe the sky was that color
  • ...

and eosef will have more chance to learn something from your "critique" when you say what you mean.

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Re: Ascent
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2013, 03:42:15 PM »

What's your point, Isaac? Here are your "critiques" so far.

I'm sure eosef learned a great deal from these.

My guess is that back then we'd have heard similar comments in the photography clubs :-)

David Eckels made clear that his struggle with the "over" saturated blue of the sky was a matter of "esthetics and taste".

Is it that you don't like the color?
Is it that you don't believe the sky was that color?

Mea culpa, when I read your words - "with over-saturated colors" - I mistakenly understood them to mean you thought the colors were over-saturated.

So
  • you might think it's over-saturated because you don't like the color
  • you might think it's over-saturated because you don't believe the sky was that color
  • ...

and eosef will have more chance to learn something from your "critique" when you say what you mean.

If your intention somehow is to critique the photograph, it strikes me you're having a lot of trouble saying what you mean.

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Re: Ascent
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2013, 03:54:15 PM »

Russ, ignore Isaac (not that you need me to advise you, of course). Conversion to b&w turns an interesting shot into a great one.

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Re: Ascent
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2013, 04:01:10 PM »

... it strikes me you're having a lot of trouble saying what you mean.

Naahhh... just busy looking for the next quote to express it ;)

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Re: Ascent
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2013, 04:04:05 PM »

... Conversion to b&w turns an interesting shot into a great one...

While I prefer Pete Turner colors (done right), if one is to go for the b&w, I think the wall and stairs would need a bit more of detail/light. What works well in color (deep color shadows) does not necessarily work so in b&w.
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