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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #340 on: November 01, 2013, 11:42:21 AM »

Just one word, superb!


Merci! It's nice when Lady Luck smiles!

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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #341 on: November 01, 2013, 01:10:41 PM »


Merci! It's nice when Lady Luck smiles!

;-)

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Yes it is, but that has nothing to do with how you turn out those beautiful images--of a Coke bottle for God's sake. I thought so when saw the first and then that triptych--lovely!

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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #342 on: November 01, 2013, 01:21:17 PM »

Yes it is, but that has nothing to do with how you turn out those beautiful images--of a Coke bottle for God's sake. I thought so when saw the first and then that triptych--lovely!


Suddenly, (Last Summer?) my bandana got too tight.

Thanks!

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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #343 on: November 01, 2013, 05:26:07 PM »

I felt like messing around today ....

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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #344 on: November 01, 2013, 05:53:44 PM »

Taken through a Coke bottle bottom, in co-operation with Rob?

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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #345 on: November 01, 2013, 05:58:30 PM »

Taken through a Coke bottle bottom, in co-operation with Rob?

Not exactly, but the underlying Panaorama was taken when i was on Mallorca.
I was meeting Rob these days.
But he didn't have a Coke on his D700, just an ordinary lens.
I'm curious what he will have on his D700 when I see him after Christmas ...
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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #346 on: November 01, 2013, 07:40:05 PM »

If you put Coke on your camera, doesn't the acid eat away at the coatings?  ???

A Nin Jiom cough syrup bottle - playing with the light...

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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #347 on: November 02, 2013, 05:56:56 AM »

If you put Coke on your camera, doesn't the acid eat away at the coatings?  ???

A Nin Jiom cough syrup bottle - playing with the light...






Beware! Pix reveal your habits!

Except they can be wrong conclusions: I don't drink Coke, and the bottle came from a local bar, the waitress saying she wanted it back. I said sure, but didn't supply a 'when'.

Oy vey, already; pressure on artists!

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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #348 on: November 02, 2013, 01:44:17 PM »

Don't think I flew this one past you here -

From a drive through France with my wife. I do remember clearly that I'd parked as far up on the grass at the side of the country lane as I could; it didn't stop an irate madame from honking at me! God knows where she came from - I'd thought the area empty.

Scanned from, I think, Velvia 50 through a Nikon F4s with, again a memory guess - the old 105 Nikkor I used to have before I went mad and sold everything. Which I've slowly found myself having to buy all over again. Yep, that male menopause does exist; it'll catch you too. Take my advice: sell nothing!

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P.S. I seem to be getting into soft uploading again - maybe it's my computer. This shot really looks soft, and it's not.
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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #349 on: November 02, 2013, 02:45:04 PM »

Okay, but an irate Madam makes me wonder what was going on up there, especially if she thought you weren't likely to be a customer.  ;D

Doesn't look soft on my screen.

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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #350 on: November 02, 2013, 04:35:45 PM »

Okay, but an irate Madam makes me wonder what was going on up there, especially if she thought you weren't likely to be a customer.  ;D

Doesn't look soft on my screen.




But I explained: I was travelling with my wife! No need for furtive.

The parking was for the village shot. The (M)madame was in another car, which was how she was able to honk - not a foie gras moment.

I'm glad it's okay on your screen - I managed to coax a half-hour out of the computer and maybe that's what worried me about the file I used to post. The time cometh.

Thanks for checking it out for me.

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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #351 on: November 02, 2013, 04:40:54 PM »

The shot occupies only about 10% of my 27" screen, thus can not really tell if it is soft or not. However, viewed on my non-Retina iPad (thus taking up most of the screen), it is clearly soft.

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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #352 on: November 02, 2013, 10:04:12 PM »

Heavily compressed ?
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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #353 on: November 03, 2013, 05:39:00 AM »

I have no idea about 'compression' beyond knowing that the image leaves here as a jpeg at, usually, the '7' setting for a quality level that might discourage copies.

I can't figure why it looks good on my monitor (at quality '7') when I see it via the computer on which it's created and then, on the same monitor but via another web-linked computer sitting beside the first computer, it looks soft when in LuLa.

Is there a way in which my sending of the image could be affecting the appearance in LuLa? In other words, could a fault in the sending computer cause such things, even if it allows incoming images to look perfect?

My monitor is a LaCie 319, if that helps.

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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #354 on: November 03, 2013, 10:11:29 AM »

Rob,

When i magnify the image on my ipad, i see halos around all of high contrast edges which indicates either compression or resizing artifacts, or over sharpening. Is the original scaled for 72 ppi and then compressed to jpeg or is it straight from the scan at scan resolution and then resampled to the final size ? Possibly the image is being compressed twice ? Or perhaps from too low of a resolution ? You are seeing the original jpeg before upload and the lula download ?

That is a fine monitor and should not make a difference if you are viewing at 100% for the comparison.
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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #355 on: November 03, 2013, 11:13:24 AM »

Hi Frank,

What I do is this – more or less as I remember it.

I take the original file from the scan and then, if doing b/white, don’t mess with it at all before converting it into b/white. Once in b/w I use Pshop to alter the thing until it looks right to me.

At that stage, I make a Copy As file and then change that down from 4000ppi to 72 and fix the width to 600 pixels (the height maxing at 500 pixels if it’s from a crop), to keep the look of the website. I add the white background space and also the outer black line.

Once that’s done, I sharpen, usually (for Internet) as below:

Quantity:  30 – 75 %

Radius:     0.5 pixels

Umbral:     0   

(My PS6 is now back working in Spanish after a brief foray giving me English…! Surprisingly, I’ve actually become more familiar with it in Spanish now.)

All of this work is done with the machine set at sRGBIEC1966-2.1 (Thanks, Keith for your time on 16/03/2009! It’s printed and up on the wall still.)

The final step is to print on the captions. After that, I make another Save As copy and convert it to jpeg. That's the first time we get a jpeg into the system.

Once that’s done, I put the jpeg file onto an external drive from which it goes to the Internet computer and out to the brave world out there.

The thing is, the jpeg file on the external drive still looks good on the monitor when viewed from either computer.

I vacuumed the openings in both machines before I made lunch. I opened the PS one and it looked perfectly clean inside but the various fan apertures were dirty as hell! However, the Internet one wouldn’t open easily and I decided not to force anything.

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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #356 on: November 03, 2013, 01:42:51 PM »

Let's see how this one fares - not a scan, but from the D700.

From the ongoing Coke thing.

Rob C

P.S.

Nope, no different, and the copy looks particularly blurry to me, even with my specs on!

Okay, it's shot with a 2.8/24mm manual Nikkor wide open (or at least, it was meant to be!) in a gale, but even so..
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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #357 on: November 04, 2013, 10:28:51 AM »

I think I've comsumed enough Coke air by now to think of a new G-R-Q Plan; a simple one - always best - and this is it: I shall change my initials to N.G.M., Nan Goldin Mallorca!

Quite brilliant, I thought; what took me so long?

;-)

Rob C
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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #358 on: November 04, 2013, 12:31:07 PM »

Oh, that's real spooky... your reflection reveals (devil?) horns!  ;D

P.S. Congrats on self-promoting marketing, that's rather novel.

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Re: Without Prejudice 2
« Reply #359 on: November 04, 2013, 12:40:41 PM »

I think I've comsumed enough Coke air by now to think of a new G-R-Q Plan; a simple one - always best - and this is it: I shall change my initials to N.G.M., Nam Goldin Mallorca!

Quite brilliant, I thought; what took me so long?

;-)

Rob C

Rob,

this is simply brilliant. Starting with a tiled studio is a very good idea...

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