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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #300 on: May 02, 2013, 03:10:20 PM »

Contax, p21+



Sony, Culver City back lot.

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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #301 on: May 02, 2013, 05:26:52 PM »

Breaks my heart: Ava Gardner sent me a picture and I think that was postmarked Culver City.

Terrible moments - I deserted her for Brigitte Bardot sometime between '56 and '59 and Buddy Holly's departure must have had little to do with it.

Speaking of which, thought this was a fitting memento but nobody seemed to know what the hell I was alluding to with the image.

C'est la vie - or quite the opposite.

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« Reply #302 on: May 03, 2013, 11:26:43 AM »

Nice little interiors project.  The austere esthetic was driven by the German client.  The severity of it warms my cold heart.









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« Reply #303 on: May 03, 2013, 11:32:07 AM »

@ Chris Barrett
very nice, I like the pictures very much!
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« Reply #304 on: May 04, 2013, 11:41:55 PM »

Destilo Brown Ale. D800 + 120mm Rodenstock Apo Rodagon. This shot will go in a different background by graphic artist.

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« Reply #305 on: May 05, 2013, 12:45:10 AM »

Hi Antonio,

Very beautiful shoot I like the way you have captured the detail in the beer froth, nice lighting and you have used the same camera and lens set up as I would use. I could not imagine not having a Horseman VCC system.

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« Reply #306 on: May 05, 2013, 02:31:10 AM »

Very nice image. Almost makes me want to have a cold beer; and I don't like beer  :)
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« Reply #307 on: May 05, 2013, 11:50:43 AM »

Simon, Martin, thanks for your comment, if it makes you thirty means I did right then.!

I shot the bottle too but it needs to go to plenty retouching. The label was a transparent plastic sticker and does not have good color reproduction. The artist have to make their ways on it.

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« Reply #308 on: May 05, 2013, 02:18:09 PM »

@ Chris Barrett
very nice, I like the pictures very much!

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« Reply #309 on: May 05, 2013, 02:24:27 PM »

Great images Chris, I especially like the third one.  Very simple illustration of a scene within the design. 
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« Reply #310 on: May 05, 2013, 03:52:10 PM »

Simon, Martin, thanks for your comment, if it makes you thirty means I did right then.!

I shot the bottle too but it needs to go to plenty retouching. The label was a transparent plastic sticker and does not have good color reproduction. The artist have to make their ways on it.

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« Reply #311 on: May 05, 2013, 05:08:24 PM »

Well Rob sorry for the typo, but if you send me your photo I might make you look 30 or 28 again. Jajaja

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« Reply #312 on: May 05, 2013, 06:23:22 PM »

Well Rob sorry for the typo, but if you send me your photo I might make you look 30 or 28 again. Jajaja

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Never mind the typo - the picture's in the post!

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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #313 on: May 06, 2013, 07:28:50 AM »

Some great work posted recently!  Chris I think the first image is stellar, the eye level is completely unexpected and works perfectly.  Jim

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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #314 on: May 06, 2013, 07:40:48 AM »

p30+, Contax, 800 watt Broncolor HMI, 1/2 stop spun, bounced into white card.



Paris a couple years ago.  re imaged for advertising this week.

IMO

BC

This is brilliant, and a divine revelation
For me as I'm looking for a similar Skintone
In motion.
I had doubts it could be too artificial but
Looking at this image, if it's nailed, as Rob
Described "porcelaine", it really looks pretty
And mysterious.

I will do another Avid tutorial on face retouching
Using only on purpose the avid available tools
And roto within the editor without any compo app.
Got a shot (CU) of an actress that has many lightning
And make-up issues. So the task will be a complete
Recovery of the face, with tracking masks etc...
And this image skintone is exactly what I want
As a final result.  

Great inspiring image. Thanks for posting.

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« Reply #315 on: May 06, 2013, 04:10:21 PM »

This is brilliant, and a divine revelation
For me as I'm looking for a similar Skintone
In motion.
I had doubts it could be too artificial but
Looking at this image, if it's nailed, as Rob
Described "porcelaine", it really looks pretty
And mysterious.

I will do another Avid tutorial on face retouching
Using only on purpose the avid available tools
And roto within the editor without any compo app.
Got a shot (CU) of an actress that has many lightning
And make-up issues. So the task will be a complete
Recovery of the face, with tracking masks etc...
And this image skintone is exactly what I want
As a final result.  

Great inspiring image. Thanks for posting.



As an AP, I never deal with skin tones.  How difficult is it working with skin tones in post?
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« Reply #316 on: May 06, 2013, 04:35:37 PM »

Here's a couple from last week for a GC I work with.  He built the house 7 years ago and will be renovating the (former) owners' new house in center city Philly.  With it so neat, since they just sold it, he thought to send me out.   ;D

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« Reply #317 on: May 06, 2013, 05:18:33 PM »

As an AP, I never deal with skin tones.  How difficult is it working with skin tones in post?

Well it depends on many factors, how bad, or far from the final output the original image is.
There is a lot that can be done in post, but in fact, if the original does not stand still, very little can be done.(or very expensive)
You can train some horses to do racing, but it will not work if you take a donkee for that purpose.
So post can't replace a good set.

And, oh yeah, the MUAs...and SPECIALY the MUAs with motion...because this has big consequences on the time to have to spend on
trying to recover bad make-up.

I find that the most difficult is not specially to lite well, but to lite with a final look in mind.
And that part is none of my business-habilities so I can't comment on that.

In general, in motion, the "rule" is to shoot the flatest possible files with log, to preserve the max range so
the looks are generated in post.

Now, someone like Coot who know how to lite, may not use log but directly lite to the closest final look in mind.
You can even create a look from RedCine X and load the metadatas into the Cam and shoot with it.
The Raw image is preserved so if you're not happy with it, you can always revert and recreate as many looks as you want.
That has an advantage if you know what you are doing, but a very big downside if you don't nail it because then the
footage is not really easy to recover. Using log flat file is adding extra steps in the pipeline but more flexible and safer.

The prob shooting log, is if you have clients that don't know motion, they look at the footage and go crazy because it
looks horrible. If you are shooting motion, within motion and for motion, then people are aware and know the workflows.
So shooting flat with clients that aren't coming from motion world is a mixed bag.




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« Reply #318 on: May 07, 2013, 05:41:16 AM »

Well it depends on many factors, how bad, or far from the final output the original image is.




Fred,

Thanks for the kind words Fred.

I wouldn't call myself an expert colorists on motion imagery.  I can find my way around, but motion to still is a much different animal, as you know.

This image wasn't that far from what you see.  The real difference was lighting and camera, using a digital back that sees very specific colors, rather than global and the talent isn't moving all over the set.  Also working vertical, rather than a broad horizontal makes specific lighting much easier.

The real thing that makes this work is talent selection.  Sure you can take someone with a dark tan and get the same effect, or close, but it's much better to start with a subject that has this color and tonal value to start.

Also it was shot knowing what the final effect would be.

In regards to shooting this on the REDs (which we did) it looks different.  I can be moved close to the same look, but the cameras are different, the processing is different, the framing is different.

But then again, the beautiful colors we see on the big screen have huge resource behind them.  If you look at a Peter Jackson Movie, if they want red to be accented, the sets are painted deep red and the rest of the set is muted.

If they want porcelain skin, the subject and the makeup is done in a way the colorists has and easier time doing it.

I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm just saying the better prep prior on set, the better the final results.

BTW:  If you will PM me I can sent you a few seconds of this image shot with the RED.  It will be more difficult as it's lit a little different, but it will give you some idea.

I also have this session on footage that will get closer to the look.



just let me know.

IMO

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« Reply #319 on: May 07, 2013, 06:43:57 AM »

Thanks very much James. That's very kind
Of you.
I'writting now from my mobile but will pm
You when back in the studio. I'm definatly
Interested to have a short sample because
It's going to be of great help.

You're absolutly right about the talent.
Yesterday I was in the Avid with my actress
Shot and had your image look in mind. But
I realise that both girls, your talent and my
Actress, are completly different animals. Skin
Has nothing to do, mine is blondish, etc...
In the end, in that particular actress shot,
Your skintone I like so much doesn't Match
With my actress style.

So in the end it's a all process from the casting
To the lightning and make-up that is driving
The post-production. Totaly true.

When I'll finish the tuto, I'll upload in my vimeo
Account. What's interesting is that it shows that
A lot can be done within the Avid app, without Nuke,
AF Or PS. Wich is a huge timesaver.
But it can't replace the right talent for the right
Look.

Cheers.

Ps: I think One of the strengh of the Avid is, a part from
Asset management and stability, are the tools to composite.
Honestly, its color correction is a bit weak, for secondaries,
, no LUT support (coming in the next), but the trackers
Are excelents, the keyers too. The roto tools truly usable
Etc...I discovered that they used the avid's keyer to do
The Marvel. No external app. That tells a lot. The next
Version will have an enhanced roundtripping with da-vinci resolve wich
Wich enables more than hd delivery.
(it can already be done, but not intuitive)
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