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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #240 on: April 12, 2013, 01:10:57 PM »

Great stuff!
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Two older images, just published: Charras and charros in the Los Angeles area.





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« Reply #241 on: April 12, 2013, 01:17:17 PM »

Two older images, just published: Charras and charros in the Los Angeles area.






Very nice Martin.... We need to go and eat some more dust together at another one of these events....

The composition in thesre two images is as good as it gets... I particularly like the interesting way they work so well together.
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« Reply #242 on: April 12, 2013, 02:48:35 PM »

Thank you, Erik. It was a lot of fun taking them.
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« Reply #243 on: April 12, 2013, 02:49:48 PM »

Thank you, Fred. I hope I'll make it down to LA this summer. We do need to eat more dust together.
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« Reply #244 on: April 12, 2013, 03:43:46 PM »

Hello Martin,

I saw your portfolio some month ago in the web. Me being latin I think is great. Should publish more of your images here.
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« Reply #245 on: April 12, 2013, 07:47:41 PM »

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« Reply #246 on: April 12, 2013, 08:01:56 PM »

Photo 2: Blue cast in the white of the eyeballs, yellow cast on the highlight on her nose..

Photo 4: Skin looks plasticy and nasty blown out whites on the sky..


Fred, you are probably not really good at read light. This is mixed lighting with what looks like a lot of skylight, hence the blue. The clouds are really bright and being outside depth of field will take out detail. You really need to get out of the studio more often.

Naturally, if this was not a Phase product demo would probably would not have posted. I am sure the photographers did not ask for your 2 cents. I don't believe this is a critique thread.
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« Reply #247 on: April 12, 2013, 08:57:21 PM »

Fred, you are probably not really good at read light. This is mixed lighting with what looks like a lot of skylight, hence the blue. The clouds are really bright and being outside depth of field will take out detail. You really need to get out of the studio more often.

Naturally, if this was not a Phase product demo would probably would not have posted. I am sure the photographers did not ask for your 2 cents. I don't believe this is a critique thread.

If you really want to be a stickler...... It's a recent professional Works thread, not a marketing event thread.
I seriously doubt any of the photographers would consider the shots they did at a product party "professioanl work" or an expression of what they are capable of.
I'm sure they each only had a few moments with the cameras.

Regardless there are loads of technical comments on images in this thread....

My point is that these images and how they are processed are not representative of a sensors capability, especially the way they were processed. I doubt they were processed by the photographers.

Regarding the plasticy skin and blown out clouds... it's not about the depth of field... there is tonality even in very blured objects.

The file is seriously clipped



Levels of the whole image:

Both Blacks and highlights are seriously clipped.
Crushed blacks should be achieved without clipping so harshly.
Always found that to be a limitation of C1 that does not have the same control of ACR 2012 process that has separate Shadow and Blacks sliders.

Regarding the skin.... the so so skin look is due to the red channel being way to hot and clipped:

Levels of a crop on the skin.



 
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« Reply #248 on: April 12, 2013, 09:21:26 PM »

Thank you, Antonio. The positive feedback from people who are far ahead of me in their careers means a lot. And I must be Latin, too, because I love charreadas and all that comes with it :) In terms of photography, the escaramuza is much more interesting, though. But I haven't published any of them, so they are not strictly "professional works".
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« Reply #249 on: April 12, 2013, 11:20:18 PM »

If you really want to be a stickler...... It's a recent professional Works thread, not a marketing event thread.
I seriously doubt any of the photographers would consider the shots they did at a product party "professioanl work" or an expression of what they are capable of.
I'm sure they each only had a few moments with the cameras.

Regardless there are loads of technical comments on images in this thread....

My point is that these images and how they are processed are not representative of a sensors capability, especially the way they were processed. I doubt they were processed by the photographers.

Regarding the plasticy skin and blown out clouds... it's not about the depth of field... there is tonality even in very blured objects.

The file is seriously clipped



Levels of the whole image:

Both Blacks and highlights are seriously clipped.
Crushed blacks should be achieved without clipping so harshly.
Always found that to be a limitation of C1 that does not have the same control of ACR 2012 process that has separate Shadow and Blacks sliders.

Regarding the skin.... the so so skin look is due to the red channel being way to hot and clipped:

Levels of a crop on the skin.



 

Fred, there is more to an image than a histogram. Just because it does not meet your personal criteria does not mean anything. Actually, the technocrat generally makes boring images as they limit themselves to purely technical interpretations to images. And I am sure you would never have pushed detail down into the shadows or let the highlights blowout for effect. Please refrain for using other photographers and their work for one of your crusades.
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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #250 on: April 13, 2013, 04:44:21 AM »

Fred, there is more to an image than a histogram. Just because it does not meet your personal criteria does not mean anything. Actually, the technocrat generally makes boring images as they limit themselves to purely technical interpretations to images. And I am sure you would never have pushed detail down into the shadows or let the highlights blowout for effect. Please refrain for using other photographers and their work for one of your crusades.



Come on now, that's not fair comment.

The pix suck and that's an end to it. Don't shoot the messenger, and if you must, better use a machine gun because there are several such messengers here.

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« Reply #251 on: April 13, 2013, 05:07:22 AM »

They just don't look very proffesional, more like a couple of rushed snaps taken by enthusiasts with a cold model who are more into the gear than making images.
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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #252 on: April 13, 2013, 05:32:51 PM »

From my new series Collected and Treasured.





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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #253 on: April 13, 2013, 09:48:49 PM »

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Keep on with the series. I really like these. Love the toning.

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« Reply #254 on: April 14, 2013, 12:38:57 PM »

I'm glad you like it Larry!
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« Reply #255 on: April 14, 2013, 03:19:28 PM »

I'm glad you like it Larry!

Very nice...
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« Reply #256 on: April 14, 2013, 08:40:26 PM »

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Keep on with the series. I really like these. Love the toning.

Larry
Me too. They're great!
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« Reply #257 on: April 14, 2013, 10:29:30 PM »

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Keep on with the series. I really like these. Love the toning.

Larry

Yes, lovely toning and great lighting.
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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #258 on: April 14, 2013, 11:04:37 PM »

From my new series Collected and Treasured.
Beautiful works, thanks for sharing

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« Reply #259 on: April 15, 2013, 11:13:07 AM »

Thanks Guys. Been working on this on my spare time. Really enjoying this.
In 1998 and 2000 did similar series with another Horseman, the VH and 6x9 B&W film.
Now enjoying digital which is a dream for me.. No more chemicals in my lungs..
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