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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #240 on: April 12, 2013, 04:28:22 AM »

I don't think all the images are by full time professionals? A dealer and a couple of reviewers/bloggers and shot on a demo day where there is no art direction or client.
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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #241 on: April 12, 2013, 09:19:33 AM »

I don't think all the images are by full time professionals? A dealer and a couple of reviewers/bloggers and shot on a demo day where there is no art direction or client.




So... exactly what's the point of publishing them, then?

Thanks to a recent posting by French Fred, I had another look today at some Ellen Von Unwerth shots, a lady who's been around a long time with a lot of success. Coming from way back in film, she has one great thing going for her(IMO) and that's that she shoots models showing emotion. When your fashion pix have that, you don't need to give a damn about formats, DR, ETTR or any other current shibboleth: it's in the photographs or it's not - much as has always been the case.

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« Reply #242 on: April 12, 2013, 09:57:35 AM »

Yes Bill. I do this often to build the megapixels-two images stacked bottom and top with a decent overlap and then merged in PS. With a T/S lens this is easy. Shift to the bottom take one image-shift to the top and make another being careful to hold the camera steady and keep some overlap so the stitch program can find some registration points to get the overlap correct-a bit harder to do this handheld without a T/S lens unless it is a long shot without objects in the foreground.
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« Reply #243 on: April 12, 2013, 09:58:44 AM »

... day where there is no art direction...

Good to know whom to thank for a good fashion/model photography... not the camera, not the photographer, but art director? ;)

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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #244 on: April 12, 2013, 10:16:05 AM »

...where there is no art direction or client

...to get in the way?
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« Reply #245 on: April 12, 2013, 10:55:38 AM »

...to get in the way?


Sir, you have just scored 100%.

Congratulations!

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« Reply #247 on: April 12, 2013, 01:02:10 PM »

Two older images, just published: Charras and charros in the Los Angeles area.




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« Reply #248 on: April 12, 2013, 01:09:31 PM »

Some photos from our IQ2 Pre-Launch Party a couple weeks ago.

Phase One IQ260 Prototype on Phase One DF+ with Schneider 28LS andr 110LS. Profoto Pro-B4 w/ Beauty Dish. Processing: Capture One v7.1.1. Reviewed wirelessly without tethering on an iPad 3.

Images used with permission of the photographers. See watermark and link under the image.


Photo by Doug Peterson



Photo by Luke Potter



Photo by Alessandro Casagli



Photo by Brian Hirschfeld

We will be hosting another round Phase One IQ2 events coming up in April and May in Washingon DC, Colorado, New York, and Texas.

I don't think it's fair to critique the photographers on these photos. It was a product presentation party.
I'm sure the photographers were distracted by the excitement of seeing the new gear and keep in mind
that the only new features of interest are wireless image review and long exposure... so I'm guessing more time was spent looking at that.

However what's up with the skin tone, blown out highlights and blue cast on the eyeballs. Not a critique of the photographers, but these are hardly representative of high image quality.

Photo 2: Blue cast in the white of the eyeballs, yellow cast on the highlight on her nose..

Photo 4: Skin looks plasticy and nasty blown out whites on the sky..

Love the models name Natasha Savignon..  lovely name.

Would like to hear more about how the Wifi review was working....
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« Reply #249 on: April 12, 2013, 01:10:57 PM »

Great stuff!
Erik

Two older images, just published: Charras and charros in the Los Angeles area.





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« Reply #250 on: April 12, 2013, 01:17:17 PM »

Two older images, just published: Charras and charros in the Los Angeles area.






Very nice Martin.... We need to go and eat some more dust together at another one of these events....

The composition in thesre two images is as good as it gets... I particularly like the interesting way they work so well together.
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« Reply #251 on: April 12, 2013, 02:48:35 PM »

Thank you, Erik. It was a lot of fun taking them.
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« Reply #252 on: April 12, 2013, 02:49:48 PM »

Thank you, Fred. I hope I'll make it down to LA this summer. We do need to eat more dust together.
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« Reply #253 on: April 12, 2013, 03:43:46 PM »

Hello Martin,

I saw your portfolio some month ago in the web. Me being latin I think is great. Should publish more of your images here.
Thanks.
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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #254 on: April 12, 2013, 07:47:41 PM »

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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #255 on: April 12, 2013, 08:01:56 PM »

Photo 2: Blue cast in the white of the eyeballs, yellow cast on the highlight on her nose..

Photo 4: Skin looks plasticy and nasty blown out whites on the sky..


Fred, you are probably not really good at read light. This is mixed lighting with what looks like a lot of skylight, hence the blue. The clouds are really bright and being outside depth of field will take out detail. You really need to get out of the studio more often.

Naturally, if this was not a Phase product demo would probably would not have posted. I am sure the photographers did not ask for your 2 cents. I don't believe this is a critique thread.
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« Reply #256 on: April 12, 2013, 08:57:21 PM »

Fred, you are probably not really good at read light. This is mixed lighting with what looks like a lot of skylight, hence the blue. The clouds are really bright and being outside depth of field will take out detail. You really need to get out of the studio more often.

Naturally, if this was not a Phase product demo would probably would not have posted. I am sure the photographers did not ask for your 2 cents. I don't believe this is a critique thread.

If you really want to be a stickler...... It's a recent professional Works thread, not a marketing event thread.
I seriously doubt any of the photographers would consider the shots they did at a product party "professioanl work" or an expression of what they are capable of.
I'm sure they each only had a few moments with the cameras.

Regardless there are loads of technical comments on images in this thread....

My point is that these images and how they are processed are not representative of a sensors capability, especially the way they were processed. I doubt they were processed by the photographers.

Regarding the plasticy skin and blown out clouds... it's not about the depth of field... there is tonality even in very blured objects.

The file is seriously clipped



Levels of the whole image:

Both Blacks and highlights are seriously clipped.
Crushed blacks should be achieved without clipping so harshly.
Always found that to be a limitation of C1 that does not have the same control of ACR 2012 process that has separate Shadow and Blacks sliders.

Regarding the skin.... the so so skin look is due to the red channel being way to hot and clipped:

Levels of a crop on the skin.



 
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« Reply #257 on: April 12, 2013, 09:21:26 PM »

Thank you, Antonio. The positive feedback from people who are far ahead of me in their careers means a lot. And I must be Latin, too, because I love charreadas and all that comes with it :) In terms of photography, the escaramuza is much more interesting, though. But I haven't published any of them, so they are not strictly "professional works".
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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #258 on: April 12, 2013, 11:20:18 PM »

If you really want to be a stickler...... It's a recent professional Works thread, not a marketing event thread.
I seriously doubt any of the photographers would consider the shots they did at a product party "professioanl work" or an expression of what they are capable of.
I'm sure they each only had a few moments with the cameras.

Regardless there are loads of technical comments on images in this thread....

My point is that these images and how they are processed are not representative of a sensors capability, especially the way they were processed. I doubt they were processed by the photographers.

Regarding the plasticy skin and blown out clouds... it's not about the depth of field... there is tonality even in very blured objects.

The file is seriously clipped



Levels of the whole image:

Both Blacks and highlights are seriously clipped.
Crushed blacks should be achieved without clipping so harshly.
Always found that to be a limitation of C1 that does not have the same control of ACR 2012 process that has separate Shadow and Blacks sliders.

Regarding the skin.... the so so skin look is due to the red channel being way to hot and clipped:

Levels of a crop on the skin.



 

Fred, there is more to an image than a histogram. Just because it does not meet your personal criteria does not mean anything. Actually, the technocrat generally makes boring images as they limit themselves to purely technical interpretations to images. And I am sure you would never have pushed detail down into the shadows or let the highlights blowout for effect. Please refrain for using other photographers and their work for one of your crusades.
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Re: Recent Professional Works 2
« Reply #259 on: April 13, 2013, 04:44:21 AM »

Fred, there is more to an image than a histogram. Just because it does not meet your personal criteria does not mean anything. Actually, the technocrat generally makes boring images as they limit themselves to purely technical interpretations to images. And I am sure you would never have pushed detail down into the shadows or let the highlights blowout for effect. Please refrain for using other photographers and their work for one of your crusades.



Come on now, that's not fair comment.

The pix suck and that's an end to it. Don't shoot the messenger, and if you must, better use a machine gun because there are several such messengers here.

Rob C
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