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kikashi

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i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« on: February 16, 2013, 03:28:44 PM »

Apple tells me that my shiny new 27" iMac has shipped, so it should arrive in a few days' time. Which of these two would you recommend?

I asked a similar question recently and the consensus was that the i1 was preferable to the ColorMunki Display. The Spyder wasn't discussed in that thread, though.

Any pointers gratefully received.

Jeremy
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2013, 04:28:03 PM »

I am in the same shoes, about to purchase one. Would like to hear feedback on the one your using both  pros & cons.
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 06:18:35 AM »

Generally the opinion is that the i1 Display Pro is faster and better than the Spyder 4 Elite. See here as most people handling theatre calibration prefer the i1 Display Pro for faster and more accurate profiles. Computer users I haven't read much on this yet.
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2013, 08:06:19 AM »

According to what I've read, the Spyder4 sensor would have been the industry standard a year or two ago. But since then the i1 Display Pro arrived, and it's generally considered to be a bit better.

Can't comment on the software as I haven't used any of them, but the sensors are both considered very good.
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2013, 02:54:28 PM »

Thanks, all. My iMac arrived today – very exciting! I've ordered an i1: it should be delivered tomorrow.

Jeremy
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2013, 04:07:04 PM »

Generally the opinion is that the i1 Display Pro is faster and better than the Spyder 4 Elite. See here as most people handling theatre calibration prefer the i1 Display Pro for faster and more accurate profiles. Computer users I haven't read much on this yet.

Thanks Philip, the link you provided, helped me decide, I too am about to buy the i1 Display Pro
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2013, 07:43:51 AM »

I just purchased i1Display Pro and calibrated my monitor last night.  I was previously using Spyder 3 pro.

It is faster and very easy to use and after initial test prints of some images, much more accurate.

Im' a windows user and it was incredibly easy to install.

I would highly recommend.
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2013, 07:46:59 AM »

The i1 was very easy to install and produces what seems to be a good profile very quickly, certainly a great deal more quickly than my old Huey Pro. I'm happy.

Jeremy
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2013, 11:26:09 PM »

I have used and been happy with my i1 display 2 for some years now.   I have recently encountered some difficulties and need some help in sorting them out.  Contacting x-rite I was told that they no longer support this model and it will cost $29 for a half hour consultation.    Given that there is no additional information on their somewhat disjointed website I am left feeling unhappy with their service.   I believe I might need a new device and after this experience I will be strongly considering the Datacolor product.
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2013, 04:04:49 AM »

If I'm reading the thread below correctly, the I1DisplayPro and the ColorMunki Display use effectively the same sensor.  At least the OP appears to have combined them together for the purposes of his comparison.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=f7f2daac60c3b56d5cffdf63d8c8ac03&topic=53825.0

For me, since I use Argyll/dispcalGUI, the CMD is a far better deal.  Then again, I could be misreading the thread and something may have changed in the intervening two years since it was started.

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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2013, 09:57:35 AM »

If I'm reading the thread below correctly, the I1DisplayPro and the ColorMunki Display use effectively the same sensor. 

Identical sensor, different speed to measure (penalize the lesser expensive product) but more importantly, the ColorMunki Display software is pretty crippled (penalize again the lesser expensive product and those who buy them).

Considering the cost to code two such products, just to have two price points, I don't understand X-rite's thinking much of the time. But their hardware is excellent!
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2013, 03:54:49 AM »

I believe I might need a new device and after this experience I will be strongly considering the Datacolor product.

I advise checking carefully any new products to see if it will match your purposes. The grass isn't always greener at another company.
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2013, 05:45:19 PM »

Identical sensor, different speed to measure (penalize the lesser expensive product) but more importantly, the ColorMunki Display software is pretty crippled (penalize again the lesser expensive product and those who buy them).

Considering the cost to code two such products, just to have two price points, I don't understand X-rite's thinking much of the time. But their hardware is excellent!

I'm not worried about the software as I use Argyll/dispcalGUI.  Also, speed isn't as important as accuracy since I'll only use it about once a month or so.

I wonder how they slowed down the speed of the sensor?  Hmmm.

Scott
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2013, 12:15:08 AM »

I advise checking carefully any new products to see if it will match your purposes. The grass isn't always greener at another company.

I haven't found anything definitive to help decide between the two products.   Similar pricing and fans on each side.    The deciding factor in this case for me is the lack of support by X-rite for my Eye one display 2  that is perhaps five years old.   I tend not to forget a lack of commitment from a company I have given my money to.   My Datacolor Spyder print device has worked well and is still supported.    I am interested in hearing if there is any reason to reconsider.
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2013, 04:04:36 AM »

The deciding factor in this case for me is the lack of support by X-rite for my Eye one display 2  that is perhaps five years old.  
Why should they support a sensor that has physically not the right means to support the current crop of displays?

And historically, DataColor had a much higher frequency of bringing out new devices to support newer technology vs X-rite whose sensors lasted for more monitor generations.

You might also want to consider this: http://www.drycreekphoto.com/Learn/Calibration/MonitorCalibrationHardware.html

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My Datacolor Spyder print device has worked well and is still supported.
Lucky Guy.
I spent way too much time with a DataColor spectro to calibrate a toy printer and never succeeded. X-Rite did it at the first try.

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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2013, 02:17:12 AM »


Why should they support a sensor that has physically not the right means to support the current crop of displays?



Please explain.

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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2013, 02:51:31 AM »

LED backlit wide gamut displays which are what everyone is moving to.
Already for wide gamut support you need a modified  i1 Display 2  (what NEC and others have been shipping previously).
Everything I find so far on colorimeters suggests that the i1 Display 2 can not do a proper job on the latest LED backlit screens.

cheers
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2013, 09:06:06 AM »

will never buy an eye-one or X-rite product again, the gels fade over time and give incorrect calibration (in my case a strong magenta cast) was a week outside of warranty but X-rite tech support didn't want to know even though the chap on the end of the phone in switzerland admitted they regularly failed.

now happily using a spyder on my eizo and MacBook Pro
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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2013, 09:10:59 AM »

will never buy an eye-one or X-rite product again, the gels fade over time and give incorrect calibration
The same applies for the older Spyders.
Only the new devices like Spyder 4 and the i1Display Pro have anorganic filters. All the older colorimeters have fading filters.

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Re: i1 Display Pro v Spyder4Elite
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2013, 04:34:25 PM »

I just got a package from Chromix that included a Spyder 4 and the Color Eyes Display Pro s/w. Works very well. Really nice matches in multi-monitor rigs.

Interestingly, out of 6 different monitors I tried, the worst delta Es reported by Color Eyes came from a 3 year old Apple Cinema 2 monitor. The best were on a cheap HP monitor. But after calibration and profiling, they are all very usable.
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