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Re: Can the war beween D800 users and MF users resist to Scheimpflung ?
« Reply #80 on: January 30, 2013, 04:24:23 AM »

+1 (despite the fact I prefere them with coffee AND chocolate chips).
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Re: Can the war beween D800 users and MF users resist to Scheimpflung ?
« Reply #81 on: January 31, 2013, 03:40:34 PM »

The funny thing is that there are tests out there that show film is still better than both the d800e and IQ 180.   

That's me!!! That's me!! woo!! HELLO!!! :-D

Oh and ... Ermmm..... but it is....   Or are you one of those people who think an 8x10 Portra 400 shot has less resolution, colour depth, dynamic range and poorer lens quality than a D800 (or IQ180)

Oh and certain 35mm B&W can still beat a D800E hands down

Tim
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Re: Can the war beween D800 users and MF users resist to Scheimpflung ?
« Reply #82 on: January 31, 2013, 03:46:06 PM »

Hi Tim,

Could you post an example?

Yes, I think it is quite possible, with a very good lens and a very good film and a photographer capable of making best use of it.

Best regards
Erik


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Oh and ... Ermmm..... but it is....   Or are you one of those people who think an 8x10 Portra 400 shot has less resolution, colour depth, dynamic range and poorer lens quality than a D800 (or IQ180)

Oh and certain 35mm B&W can still beat a D800E hands down

Tim

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Re: Can the war beween D800 users and MF users resist to Scheimpflung ?
« Reply #83 on: January 31, 2013, 04:02:30 PM »

Oh and certain 35mm B&W can still beat a D800E hands down

You are probably thinking about adox cms 20: http://www.adox.de/english/ADOX%20Films/Premium/ADOX_Films/ADOX_CMS_Films.html
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Re: Can the war beween D800 users and MF users resist to Scheimpflung ?
« Reply #84 on: January 31, 2013, 04:08:38 PM »

Hi,

I'm not sure you need to go to Adox, I wouldn't rule out T-MAX 100.

But I would say that digital and film are different. I prefer digital, but opinions vary.

Erik

You are probably thinking about adox cms 20: http://www.adox.de/english/ADOX%20Films/Premium/ADOX_Films/ADOX_CMS_Films.html

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Re: Can the war beween D800 users and MF users resist to Scheimpflung ?
« Reply #85 on: August 31, 2013, 08:56:55 PM »

Well. a couple of months ago I ended up with a Mamiya 645 AFD II and a ZD Back.... and I compared with Canon 5D MKII, Canon 1DMKII, Nikon D800 and Olympus OMD....
and.... if results are that close baring in mind that the Mamiya is several years old.... I would not worry to mucho about Nikon D800 shading out MF:

http://www.photographyvideoblog.com/files/mamiya_645_afdII_zdback21mp.php
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Re: Can the war beween D800 users and MF users resist to Scheimpflung ?
« Reply #86 on: September 01, 2013, 03:26:39 PM »

Well. a couple of months ago I ended up with a Mamiya 645 AFD II and a ZD Back.... and I compared with Canon 5D MKII, Canon 1DMKII, Nikon D800 and Olympus OMD....
and.... if results are that close baring in mind that the Mamiya is several years old.... I would not worry to mucho about Nikon D800 shading out MF:

http://www.photographyvideoblog.com/files/mamiya_645_afdII_zdback21mp.php

You note on your blog that the D800 has better shadows and worse highlights. My observations are that the D800 exposes about 1/3 stop hotter than my other cameras. So I used the built-in function to adjust the posemeter and now it has about the same highlights as everyone else.
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Re: Can the war beween D800 users and MF users resist to Scheimpflung ?
« Reply #87 on: September 02, 2013, 06:40:56 PM »

You note on your blog that the D800 has better shadows and worse highlights. My observations are that the D800 exposes about 1/3 stop hotter than my other cameras. So I used the built-in function to adjust the posemeter and now it has about the same highlights as everyone else.
Yes, it could be the reason, thank you.
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Re: Can the war beween D800 users and MF users resist to Scheimpflung ?
« Reply #88 on: September 03, 2013, 05:44:24 AM »

A question : if you can have a Hassy H or phase one system or Alpa system for the price of a D800 system, wich one will you choose ?

Soooo simple !!! if the Alpa and a hassy systems costs the same as D800, i will chose just to buy the Alpa and the Hassy together !!!
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Re: Can the war beween D800 users and MF users resist to Scheimpflung ?
« Reply #89 on: September 03, 2013, 09:03:27 AM »

Why fo we still use time with these discissions ?..
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Re: Can the war beween D800 users and MF users resist to Scheimpflung ?
« Reply #90 on: September 03, 2013, 11:57:46 PM »

That's me!!! That's me!! woo!! HELLO!!! :-D

Oh and ... Ermmm..... but it is....   Or are you one of those people who think an 8x10 Portra 400 shot has less resolution, colour depth, dynamic range and poorer lens quality than a D800 (or IQ180)

Oh and certain 35mm B&W can still beat a D800E hands down

Tim
Hi Tim,
Yes, I was referring to your excellent set of tests that you published a while back.  Those were some of the most extensive and carefully done tests I have seen.
Yet, resolution isn't really the reason I'll put the film back onto my Hy6 and shoot film.  I just like the look of it, and it handles some lighting situations better.  Its really great to have choices.
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Re: Can the war beween D800 users and MF users resist to Scheimpflung ?
« Reply #91 on: September 04, 2013, 09:20:00 AM »

100% Eric. 

. . . resolution isn't really the reason I'll put the film back onto my Hy6 and shoot film.  I just like the look of it, and it handles some lighting situations better.  Its really great to have choices.
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