They do come from cards originally. I just don't import them via C1. I have a multi-card reader and download images on my hard drive. Since I use both LR and C1, I don't want to create sessions if I don't end up using C1 for a particular job. That creates a problem since C1 creates a folder when you use sessions. If you ONLY use C1, then yes, you can create the session first and then dump the images inside the folder (although, that's a workaround not an elegant way of doing things since I'm forced to start C1 just to create a damn folder).
DING DING DING!!! Exactly!!
I certainly don't use the raw dev to import images. I would recommend it for someone just starting out who just purchased their $1200 Costco DSLR with 3 light camera kit. It would be a good start to rely on one app for all image related task. I recommend a 1TB NAS for them for back up etc as well.
BUT certainly not for anyone taking full control of their work, or work from multiple cards and shooters. Come on! Raw Dev to ingest? ( I tried even LightRoom for a bit, which looks intuitive, but no thanks) Maybe for the hobbiest or the occasional fine artist that wants to make a cup of drip coffee while doing it..
_Culling ... ingesting is the job of a FAST DAM app that sees all files with a bunch of its data clearly with number of features to organize. tag metadata, move around folders.... PERIOD. "
OFTEN, I have a 32GB card that I have more than one client shoot in a day, and I don't use ONE shiny idealistic Session folder. I have 3 or 4, and I want the files in their specific folders...With ACDSee you can command such demands! By date, by individual selection to multiple locations. That's FLEXIBILITY! Thats cuz its a DAM DAM! I can't really rave about the Raw dev it comes with. But guess what? You can buy just the manager that DOESN'T come with the raw. Hmm what a novel idea! Separate apps for different users. Separate the Raw/Dev portion from the Manage....genius!
" Today we'll discuss how you can use Capture One to do all your photographic steps as you transfer, process, and archive All your data within one applications ...if you use it the right way..." Really Peter? :-) BTW, I love Peter, and his work is just bliss. Besides, a great voice for instruction that I've enjoyed over the years!
He has a great blog as well....Really amazing chap. Maybe in half effort manner you can do everything in C1, but Why would you?! Why?! Perhaps you're a digitech? OK, fantastic. You go!
What makes a professional a professional is having invested in the right tools for the right job. Use DAM to organize and Developer to process RAW.
Would you use a 1-2/ps frame camera for a fast paced model shoot with NO final image direction? NO! Would you use a point and shoot for Cartiers next ad? No!
Why would you Catalog your image library and LOCK in all your images/image data to one program? You wouldn't. And yes, C1 lets you use Sessions...great.....At least make it user friendly by being simple. Stop making unnecessary folders!
.....You say this is common an many raw developers? Would you say it is common for Major cataloging houses, Agencies, publications, editors, and studios use a DAM application? Yes or no? Thank you!
I had a job I developed today in C1 and it just does a BEAUTIFUL processing job....come on guys, this is torture.
Give the digitechs thier version since you trained the hell out of them on how to think, but give the rest of the people a choice to be free. As free as 3.7.10 is enough for me.
In a project oriented environment like many working photographers operate, this makes perfect sense because it tends to keep things organized by client/job and in one place, making backup and portability a cinch.
_Why would C1 decide when that folder is made? Just because I shoot into it or transfer into it via C1? C1 is not my only app on a clients job. (This is what I mean tho-mas
I always create a session before doing anything and then drop the take, wherever it came from, directly into Captures.
_You create a session before getting all the info, which often will have samples of things they like, or the job focus?
If you want to avoid this for some reason, you can create a "session favorite" (in the library tab) that points to your folder(s) of images.
_I'm gonna have to look at this again, as I remember using it at some point.
Many project-oriented software work this way. Video editing comes to mind... you create the project, then add the assets.
_Can you make a list besides "many"? thanks.
As far as clients folders....
I already have the clients folder created with their sample images they forward and have discussions for the project before I shoot. As I said, I understand the 1 time it is good when the Digitech will create this folder to hand off. Is that all C1's big picture approach is all about?
How hard is it for a digitech to do without that? Not hard at all. It can be done without the steps. It would keep things from making a mess. Get rid of this and we can ignore Sessions and Catalog with better ease. Since most people 99.9% try to anyway.
I highly recommend C1 to prompt us if we want it to create C1/Cache/Settings subfolders to areas we simply browse. I have NO intention of dong anything in a folder I browsed in. If Sessions is so simple and just like a SysFolder browser, then let me do just that without added files to clean after.
(take the above in a fun tone, but the reality is there.)