More information is available, and it does seem appropriate to take a look at 11 health care indicators from a Canadian perspective ;-)
Overall they score the US a D for health performance :-(
Do you mean those people receive free preventative care or do you mean the unpaid emergency room costs are picked-up by tax payers?
Just curious -- Is that because an employer is picking-up the rest of the health insurance premium?
I wish you luck --
"62.1 percent of the bankruptcies were medically related because the individuals either had more than $5,000 (or 10 percent of their pretax income) in medical bills, mortgaged their home to pay for medical bills, or lost significant income due to an illness. On average, medically bankrupt families had $17,943 in out-of-pocket expenses, including $26,971 for those who lacked insurance and $17,749 who had insurance at some point.
Overall, three-quarters of the people with a medically-related bankruptcy had health insurance, they say."
1. Why would a graded by Canadains, in Canada graded health survey, be of interest to anyone but a Canadian? What I've been trying to say isn't being understood. Allow me an additional opportunity?
A countries health care system is complex. There are many contributing variables and factors. Comparing countries with unlike variables and factors is of marginal if any use. There are too many significant differences between the US and Canadian systems for them to be compared to on the whole. Trying to do so is folly.
Personally I don't think there is another country to be compared with the US on the whole. There are single factors and variables we could compare, but they're quickly and instinctively explained by one or more of the other variables/factors.
2. I would be surprised if a biased article for Canada would give any better of a grade to the US.. We can all see why ?
3. I was speaking of clinics and waiting rooms which normally cater to appointments. The emergency room myth is a good example of how myths start and why.
When I came back to the states after being gone a number of years one of the first things on my agenda was to shop for a clinic, doctors, etc compatible with my health insurance. Virtually every one of them had an "urgent care clinic" which falls under the same laws for those who can't pay. And they're used at least partly as a filtering point to get those without insurance or income into the best fit of a program.
So to answer your question, they were part of a program, either medicare, welfare, whatever name they're giving it.. which qualifies them for this program. They all include preventative care from what I could tell. At what levels and compared to what I don't know. But it was impressive because everything needed was available (from what I could tell from my vantage point). everyone was treated well, and the clinics were very nice. I was surprised to learn they're building a newer more advanced center my current clinic will be transferred to later this year.. so there's progress there as well.
4. Of course. This is how all insurance companies work for all but the self-employed or those unable to pay. An insurance plan is offered as a benefit of employment and your contributions are detailed in your employment contract. In many cases you can choose to purchase supplements which further cover yearly deductibles and contributions for a monthly fee. Often there are several levels so you can tailor your personal requirements to a plan. It's all very friendly and easy to understand.
5. I don't wish to be rude, but in matters of such import I don't leave it to luck. I put in enough research time to understand what's going on to the best of my abilities. And then I choose the most appropriate plan which will cover me and my family. Luck intones I have no control, or at least that I needed help because I had lost control. And that would not be the case.
Also, I've personally went through the scenario where someone gets hurt enough to require years of surgeries, further years of rehab, and drastic changes in employment, lifestyle, etc. I've lived it. I could write books about it. When this happened I immediately knew I'd lost my life as I knew it. My career was gone, I was certain more would be lost, it just didn't take many brain cells to see all that coming. My thoughts then went to my occupational and financial recovery. I'm proud to say at no time did I have to worry if a hospital bill was paid or anything of that nature. Or if I wasn't getting the best care possible. I was confident I was. No matter, if it wasn't I'd have just put it on the rather long list of things I'd attend to when I could.
At no time did I expect outside help to pay me for the loss of my career, or any of the other things I wasn't planning on. I planned, I think well for my age at the time, and did my best with the outcome. And then I took my disabled self and built a new career. At no time did I ever expect anyone to do it for me. Or feel bad because my government didn't cover me 100%. I'm just not built with that sort of mentality.
And if you take that brief paragraph you listed.. that 3/4's thing.. Read it carefully. Do just a fair amount of research. Compare it to yourself and your own set-up and choices. I'd be surprised if you didn't become at least a bit really at those willing to game the system as most of these people have done. When I see such flotsam coming from my own country I become even more discouraged with the political party responsible.
The people who write such articles understand that the majority of readers won't do any research, they'll just take it as written. This is their target base. Then you have a minority who do research to some degree, and others to a higher degree. You see, most people stop when they see what they already agree with. This is who the article is written for. And if they're good at this type of targeted slop there will be another 15-25% who will research it just enough to confirm a few other parts. But it's usually under 25% who read it enough to understand what they're really doing. And these people, that 25%.. probably isn't from their party anyway.
If you put out enough of these things then a number of people will start to believe it. These people, and the reinforcement of the 50%.. that's what they're really after. Both major parties do this. It's not unique to anyone. It's old and tiring and frankly insulting. It's this sort of thing that impedes real progress from any direction. And you'd be surprised how many profit greatly from no progress being made.
Thank you for a polite discussion. You didn't see a need to get insulting like someone did later in the thread who tried to be cute. I really do believe the US (and most every country out there) can and should improve their system. But I think the "my country is great and gives me free stuff so your country should too" approach isn't productive for anyone.
I could have cited articles which were written and support my POV, what numerous Canadian expats have shared with me, etc.. but what I really would like, and I felt you left yourself open to it, is to just politely talk about the differences and what we think should be done about them. This isn't a debate where anyone wins. Ever. But we can understand it better.