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Iluvmycam

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Re: Beautiful but shallow / Full of meaning but ugly
« Reply #40 on: April 29, 2013, 06:19:36 PM »

everybody has shot it one time or anotjher. nothing new under the sun. (pretty much) Just  a different twist to it.

Ugly photos go into museums or to collectors. Pretty photos go to art fairs. It is that simple. And junk like Cindy Sherman or Egelston go for millions.
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Gulag

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Re: Beautiful but shallow / Full of meaning but ugly
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2013, 01:35:10 AM »

And junk like Cindy Sherman or Egelston go for millions.

Apparently you sound like you don't get it.
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Rob C

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Re: Beautiful but shallow / Full of meaning but ugly
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2013, 05:07:26 AM »

Apparently you sound like you don't get it.


Don't get what: that that stuff is crap or that the art world lives off crap?

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Re: Beautiful but shallow / Full of meaning but ugly
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2013, 09:59:03 AM »


Don't get what: that that stuff is crap or that the art world lives off crap?

Rob C

Perhaps you need to be kind enough to give us your own definition of "stuff" and "art" first before any meaningful discussions can be engaged.
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Re: Beautiful but shallow / Full of meaning but ugly
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2013, 11:17:47 AM »

... before any meaningful discussions can be engaged.

Seems too late for that  ;)

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Re: Beautiful but shallow / Full of meaning but ugly
« Reply #45 on: May 08, 2013, 03:19:54 PM »

The expression that i often see in Artist Statements, Letterheads and promo material is "artist working in the medium of photography"

I never work in the medium. Everything for me is large...
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Re: Beautiful but shallow / Full of meaning but ugly
« Reply #46 on: May 08, 2013, 03:23:24 PM »


Don't get what: that that stuff is crap or that the art world lives off crap?

Rob C

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So what do you really believe?
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Re: Beautiful but shallow / Full of meaning but ugly
« Reply #47 on: May 08, 2013, 05:44:48 PM »

To quote a member:

So what do you really believe?


Why, both points seem valid, don't they?

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Re: Beautiful but shallow / Full of meaning but ugly
« Reply #48 on: May 08, 2013, 06:25:06 PM »


Don't get what: that that stuff is crap or that the art world lives off crap?

Rob C
Just watched a documentary about Eggleston, and looked at some images on line. Do you really find no merit in his work? Oh well. De gustibus, I guess.

The art world is another story.

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Re: Beautiful but shallow / Full of meaning but ugly
« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2013, 09:23:17 AM »

Ken, I don't trust documentaries: they have the trick of selecting the very best and then making it seem it's the norm. Equally, I've seen a few about snappers whose careers have been in the same time-slot as my own, whose work I've usually admired, and when viewed outwith the pages of a magazine or whatever, the magic simply fades away to nothing.

Photographs outwith their intended context can be quite disappointing.

Partly, the problem with bios about snappers is that, usually, they have not a lot to say. It's not that they find themselves tongue-tied, but that their own lives aren't really what the work is about, and when the genre, style and/or content is what grabs you, it becomes a bit flattening to learn that the people themselves live ordinary, dullish lives as pretty much everyone else seems to live them outwith the job.

But when the work, too, is dull... then there's always a curator to liven up the perception, I guess.

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Re: Beautiful but shallow / Full of meaning but ugly
« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2013, 04:42:55 PM »

Photographs outwith their intended context can be quite disappointing.

Ain't dat da troof!!

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Re: Beautiful but shallow / Full of meaning but ugly
« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2013, 06:18:06 PM »

if you can look at some of observations others had obtained long ago, the question answers itself, don't you agree?

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