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Re: New SPP software update, and firmware update for both DP2M and DP1M
« Reply #520 on: December 09, 2012, 03:02:41 pm »

I'm afraid this is not going to happen, at least not in this decade. But we can expect a FF Foveon sensor in a few years and that folks is going to shake some foundations. Not broadcasting the end of digital medium format because there will always be enough people to sustain the most expensive toys. China now has officially 100,000 millionaires and this is just the beginning. In the mean time I remained as broke as always. That's why I'm glad the Foveon technology is maturing. Kudos to Sigma for this and for their latest developments in glass design. For over 30 years, this is the first time I'm turning my eyes to this brand.
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If only Phase or Hasselblad would licence the Foveon sensor technology fopr digital MF, and make a full frame 645 sensor in the quality, it would blow everyone's socks off, all over again.
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Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill Experiences
« Reply #521 on: December 10, 2012, 05:21:17 am »

nice pictures...

here're a few of mine....shot with a month old DP2M...




















« Last Edit: December 10, 2012, 05:22:51 am by nandadevieast »
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Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill Experiences
« Reply #522 on: December 10, 2012, 08:02:16 am »

A test at the close focus limit.  First one: Right out of SPP as a 16 bit tiff, second one is the tiff converted to b&w and cropped in Aperture.
ISO 200. F 7.1, 1/50.


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Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill Experiences
« Reply #523 on: December 10, 2012, 10:26:59 am »

What I see since some pages please me a lot :)

For you, here is a link to a shop who craft leather protections for DPm ;)

http://ulysses.jp/products/detail289.html
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Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill Experiences
« Reply #524 on: December 10, 2012, 11:19:36 am »

Beautiful photographs! Were these taken hand-held?  What is your experience with street/travel photography with this camera - do you need a tripod or can you work well without one?
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Re: FF foveon sensors
« Reply #525 on: December 10, 2012, 11:36:35 am »

Sigma is apparently using a FF prototype to do quality control evaluation of their newest lens lines, for example, that new 35mm f/1.4 FF lens.
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Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill Experiences
« Reply #526 on: December 10, 2012, 12:55:51 pm »

Beautiful photographs! Were these taken hand-held?  What is your experience with street/travel photography with this camera - do you need a tripod or can you work well without one?

hope this question is directed at me...

Rvmos, these were taken in india at various places, all handheld except the colorful one. It may not be as convenient as some other tools for street, but i am positive that it can take great street shots. You don't need a tripod, unless its a planned shot. 
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Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill Experiences
« Reply #527 on: December 10, 2012, 06:22:05 pm »

Kiev, in the snow a few days ago.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9806585/Kiev_city.jpg

Some truly excellent shots recently posted in this thread.  Glad I popped back!

Quentin
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Re: FF foveon sensors
« Reply #528 on: December 10, 2012, 06:28:09 pm »

Sigma is apparently using a FF prototype to do quality control evaluation of their newest lens lines, for example, that new 35mm f/1.4 FF lens.

Any more on that?  A 30mp or thereabouts Foveon sensor coupled with a DP2M quality prime lens would be a dream come true.  And a nighmare for medium format.
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Re: FF foveon sensors
« Reply #529 on: December 10, 2012, 07:32:41 pm »

Any more on that?  A 30mp or thereabouts Foveon sensor coupled with a DP2M quality prime lens would be a dream come true.  And a nighmare for medium format.

Not any more on that :)

Sigma swapped the old Zeiss MTF machine with proprietary A1 MTF machine who run with the SD1 sensor. FF sensor in this is only pure speculation :)

The truth is in my hands and my hands are on a magic keyboard who magically found that  ;D

http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2012/09/24/sigmas-system-revolution/



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Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill Experiences
« Reply #530 on: December 11, 2012, 01:18:47 am »

hulyss,
is there a work around for long exposures. I have not needed more than couple of seconds yet, but i might. is it possible to have more than 30 sec exposures? for landscapes it is very important feature.
nandadevieast
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Re: FF foveon sensors
« Reply #531 on: December 11, 2012, 02:45:21 am »

Hi Hulyss


Interesting article - it's impressive what Sigma are doing.  Looks like the latest generation of lenses will be excellent.  I hope full frame Foveon follows!

Quentin

Not any more on that :)

Sigma swapped the old Zeiss MTF machine with proprietary A1 MTF machine who run with the SD1 sensor. FF sensor in this is only pure speculation :)

The truth is in my hands and my hands are on a magic keyboard who magically found that  ;D

http://www.photoclubalpha.com/2012/09/24/sigmas-system-revolution/




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Re: FF foveon sensors
« Reply #532 on: December 11, 2012, 05:31:04 am »

Hi Hulyss


Interesting article - it's impressive what Sigma are doing.  Looks like the latest generation of lenses will be excellent.  I hope full frame Foveon follows!

Quentin


As you can see, there is an edit at the end of the article, and this edit is due to me, poor French photographer. Because I cream the web to seek infos 24/7 about foveon, I ended on this article and related it on a French forum, got it on DpR. At the end of the day I got a mail from my Zeiss/SIGMA dealer asking the SIGMA France CEO wanted to speak to me ... I phoned SIGMA France and got the CEO saying "thank you for what you do for us since years blablabla but ... we suspect you have an insider info from the Japan factory because some things you said should not be said".  :o :o

I was like ... WTF ??? This is your UK homologue who said that to a blogger at the photokina ... !!! I'm not a spy !!!

They asked me all my personal infos and all the links of my "sources".

For me this was a great insult and I will never do anything to defend SIGMA in France any more. So I ordered to erase accounts and interventions on two French forums, a grand total of 8500 posts roughly SIGMA related only, 3 years of passion. I will now collaborate with SIGMA Japan only.

hulyss,
is there a work around for long exposures. I have not needed more than couple of seconds yet, but i might. is it possible to have more than 30 sec exposures? for landscapes it is very important feature.
nandadevieast

Dear nandadevieast,

The only way to go up than 30sec with a foveon sensor is with SD15 or SD1 :)
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Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill Experiences
« Reply #533 on: December 11, 2012, 09:04:41 am »

Hi Hulyss,
will interval timer help in obtaining longer exposure?
don't know how this works, but read somewhere...
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Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill Experiences
« Reply #534 on: December 11, 2012, 09:18:00 am »

Hi Hulyss,
will interval timer help in obtaining longer exposure?
don't know how this works, but read somewhere...

I don't think so. Intervalometer will only shoot a frame of maximum 30 sec if you want but not longer.
Anyway, do not heat the foveon; you will lose a lot in IQ with the merrill.
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Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill Experiences
« Reply #535 on: December 11, 2012, 02:36:02 pm »

What an incredible story and dreadful loss Hulyss.
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Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill Experiences
« Reply #536 on: December 12, 2012, 08:15:46 am »

ISO 200, F 7.1, 1/2000


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Re: FF foveon sensors
« Reply #537 on: December 12, 2012, 06:16:20 pm »

As you can see, there is an edit at the end of the article, and this edit is due to me, poor French photographer. I will now collaborate with SIGMA Japan only.

So sorry...I have enjoyed following your "investigations"...your passion for the camera is clear...hope this will sort out well for you...I actually thought they were going to offer to have you work as a rep!

But now , a question...just did the SPP updates on both machines to ver 5.4.1. Forgot to look at my settings before uninstalling ver5.3.4. I seem to be doing what most have found, and following Michael's suggestions for workflow as to Prophoto , output to 16 bit tiffs to designated folder on drive. Something I do not remember setting before was at the bottom of initial preference settings..."use default X3 settings" or "auto" or "last". What are users finding  works best here? Thank you.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2012, 06:19:23 pm by Patricia Sheley »
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Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill Experiences
« Reply #538 on: December 12, 2012, 07:30:18 pm »

Now we're into Merril Porn ?

I guess some do like to watch rather than be the shooter.  :o
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Re: Sigma DP2 Merrill Experiences
« Reply #539 on: December 12, 2012, 07:48:36 pm »

Now we're into Merril Porn ?

I guess some do like to watch rather than be the shooter.  :o

Ouch, busted! You really got me figured out there K.C.  I bought one of the ugliest cameras ever built by man because how a camera looks is my primary concern LOL.....C'mon, you have to admit this camera wasn't the easiest unit to hold on to with the stock design.  What I have done is all functional and adds to the grip and control of the camera.  It was kinda slippery and elusive before the add-ons....these mods, did turn out it seems from my perspective... to be immensely helpful to the shooter.  But some might interpret otherwise......And as far as the look of a camera goes, yes...I am gulity.  I love the look of finely engineered tech, although this camera remains ugly no matter what color lipstick you put on it.  You must be a pro-shooter that is strictly utilitarian in the pursuit of your craft. Functionality being your primary concern when you are on a shoot. I can respect that....time is money.  Me...I am just an enthusiast, I don't make my living with photography.  So, yes.....there is more of an all around fun element to all aspects of the hobby when it is not a job.  This includes dressing the camera.  You certainly did get me laughing, and I thank you for that.....

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