Waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V lenses?

[rogerxnz]

Do you think it would be a waste of money using an 80 or 60 MP back with Hasselblad Series V (Hasselblad 5xx series) lenses in the sense that the older lenses are not up to the resolution offered by these backs?

Possibly, you might see defects in the lenses???
Roger

[henrikfoto]

Many of the V-lenses are very good even with the 80 mp backs.
I like the newest V-lenses in many cases better than the new Phase one or H-lenses.

But I would stay away from the V-cameras with the highest resolution backs.
They will cause you a lot of frustration.

The Contax 645 is very good with digital backs, cheap and can use both the Cf and the Fe lenses.

Henrik

[rogerxnz]

Than you for your views, Henrik.

Please tell me more about "But I would stay away from the V-cameras with the highest resolution backs. They will cause you a lot of frustration."

Frustration in what way? I have an Aptus 75 and the only frustration I sometimes have is in focussing which I understand many others experience when using DBs.

What frustrations are you referring to?
Roger

[henrikfoto]

I had a 80 mp back with my 503cw for 2 months. I finally gave up. The V-cameras are not precise enough
for these backs (80mp). They also make too much vibrations. If I was lucky 1 out of 10 pics were sharp, even if I was very careful. I am talking freehand shooting.

I have no problems with the 503 with the P20 or P25.

Henrik

[FredBGG]

Interesting reading on the V and H lenses.

http://www.hasselbladusa.com/media/1663143/the_evolution_of_lenses.pdf

Many of the very high end film camera medium format lenses are perfectly good on MFDB. The whole digital lens thing is a bit of a marketing myth.

[bradleygibson]

Digital medium format requires the very best in technique to achieve peak image quality.

60 or 80MP is definitely not wasted on the V-series--these cameras and their optics can deliver top-notch results.  Vibration from mirror slap will be a problem with a particular range of shutter speeds--test your setup to find out where you will run into trouble.

Shutter vibration can also an issue on the F/FE series cameras, particularly with longer lenses, but I assume you were talking about a C/CF/CFE V camera.

[design_freak]

I had a 80 mp back with my 503cw for 2 months. I finally gave up. The V-cameras are not precise enough
for these backs (80mp). They also make too much vibrations. If I was lucky 1 out of 10 pics were sharp, even if I was very careful. I am talking freehand shooting.

I have no problems with the 503 with the P20 or P25.

Henrik

Dear Henrik,
Want to sell your 80?

[henrikfoto]

Dear Henrik,
Want to sell your 80?

I changed the mount to Mamiya. If I were to do it again I would have changed it to Hy6.

Henrik

[Gigi]

not sure that can be done....

[EricWHiss]

Of course it can. You can still buy new AFi-ii 12's. Henrik what are you waiting for?  The schneider lenses are better than the zeiss V lenses.  Less distortion, better bokeh.

[henrikfoto]

Yes, I should, but just the new mount is minimum 3-4.000 $ by Phase one/Leaf.
Nothing like the old Sinars and Hasselblads where you could have many different
mounts and change when you needed.

Henrik

[EricWHiss]

Well you can fit the AFi with adapters to the Mamiya RZ, arTec, cambo, alpa, linhof and maybe other cameras. Anything with a sliding back like my Xact2.   The RZ adapter works like the Sinar adapter plates with scews and cables and everything else is snap in. Actually I think you can get one for the Fuji 680 too?

[Dick Roadnight]

I can use V series lenses with my H4D-60 by using the CF adapter - and this is an option I might use, as I have the Zeiss 120 Macro, and not the new HC(2) macro 120... but I like movements... so I could use my Sinar back on the Hasselblad Flexbody, but the 54H is only 22Mpx in single shot, and I can only use it multi-shot with an electronic shutter?

My new Hasselblad 300mm is a nice autofocus lens, and I could remote DoF stack with it, but will I use my Zeiss 250mm again?

...and how would my Zeiss 40mm (on my H4D-60) compare to the Schneider Apo-Digitar 47XL (on my Sinar P3)?