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Did I miss the review on the new Nikon D4?
« on: July 17, 2012, 02:06:01 am »

From what I've seen, it looks like an appealing piece of equipment.  No, it's not as surprising as the D800 siblings, but is another step forward.  What's the consensus?  I always look to LuLa for a reasoned, objective response to new gear.
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Re: Did I miss the review on the new Nikon D4?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2012, 02:59:18 am »

I am also interested in just how acceptable (or unacceptable) the D4 is for a LuLa-type photographer. I have a D800E, which I adore, but in some situations I need a higher FPS body (not for landscape, obviously). But it would certainly be nice if the D4 provided a "bullet-proof" body that yielded print results as good as the D800 (eg not worried about pixel-peeping). From the DxO mark charts, it seems like it might be a mixed bag depending on ISO and what particular characteristic (noise, DR) is most important and what ISO you are shooting at. If you can keep things in that ISO 100-200 range, the D800 is one tough cookie to take on in the area of DR and noise. If for some reason you were compelled to shoot at a higher ISO, the D4 starts to have a notable advantage. While the D4 seems to equal or exceed its predecessors universally, it wouldn't make much sense to pay $6k to get back to the same place you were already at.
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Lance

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Re: Did I miss the review on the new Nikon D4?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2012, 10:55:59 am »

From my results with a D800, I feel that many seem to be selling it short on high iso. 

If you are working in moderate light and need a high iso to get a faster shutter speed, the D800 works great up to iso  speeds of 2000 to 2800.
I find very low noise (comparing this to a 5D MKII) and the files hold a good bit of color/saturation.  Since I don't have a large lens at a F4 range,
I have always been working at around F5.6 with either Canon or Nikon due to a 2x converter or the limit of the lens.  Examples here would be shooting
birds where I still want a shutter speed of 1/320 to 1/800.  I have used the D800 here and it's surprisingly clean.  The other huge advantage is that
you can switch to DX mode and still get a very clean file and hold around 15mp. 

On the other hand, if you are working early morning/late afternoon evening here the D800 will suffer a bit.  it's still not bad up to around 1600 but once you
get beyond this you start pulling excessive noise.  If you can open up past F5.6 then you can go a bit more IMO.  However the noise does start to creep up.

If you need  iso 2800 and telephoto  and are in low light then the D800 will suffer unless you are blessed with a high speed lens in the F2.8 F4 range.

I have shot the D4 and it's an amazing camera, however it's only 16/15 mp depending on who you read.   But
if you use the DX mode, now you are down to around 7mp which is getting pretty small for a large print.

What I found impressive on  D4 was iso 8000 early in the morning with a hand held 70-200 with the TC 2x at F5.6.  Very clean, and useable
shots,  No other camera I have used will allow a useable iso 6400 to 8000 frame.  The other thing I found is that if you expose for the highlights and hope
to pull up shadows at iso's 5000 and up the shadows will show quite a bit of noise, however if you do the opposite and work with the darker
areas and let the hightlights go a bit, most times the highlights will come back, they are not totally blown.  I am continuously amazed by the
new generation of Nikon chips.

Paul
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Re: Did I miss the review on the new Nikon D4?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2012, 03:40:51 pm »

What I found impressive on  D4 was iso 8000 early in the morning with a hand held 70-200 with the TC 2x at F5.6.  Very clean, and useable
shots,  No other camera I have used will allow a useable iso 6400 to 8000 frame.  The other thing I found is that if you expose for the highlights and hope
to pull up shadows at iso's 5000 and up the shadows will show quite a bit of noise, however if you do the opposite and work with the darker
areas and let the hightlights go a bit, most times the highlights will come back, they are not totally blown.  I am continuously amazed by the
new generation of Nikon chips.

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the info in the above paragraph. That was exactly what I was interested in knowing. I enjoy those tricky early morning shots that disappear quickly. Nikon should give you some commission.

Lance
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