Fredrix 777 yellowing

[Peterretep]

Is it normal and to be expected to have very noticeable yellowing of the canvas in three days time?

I printed from a 24 inch roll last Friday and left the canvas roll in the top of my 7900 ready to print again. I didn't get to print over the weekend as planned but did today and noticed while looking at the print that the side of the canvas that was exposed to air had yellowed quite a bit.

Anyone else experience this with Fredrix or any other canvas? I'm not very experienced with canvas having only used about three 40 foot rolls to date so I don't know if this is normal.

Thanks for your comments.

Peter

[langier]

Hi Peter,

I've run close to 100 rolls of the 777 in the past year. Some had to be coated the same day, others have sat for a week before I've coated. No yellowing that I've seen.

Could you have atmospheric contaminations, such as bad air from a nearby factory, freeway, fireplace, etc?

[Peterretep]

Thanks for the response Larry.

The only atmospheric condition I can think of that might be a problem would be a humidity level around 60%. Otherwise the air where I live is very clean. I live in a fairly rural area with no large roads nearby. This time of the year the main aroma to the breeze is flowers, the air is sweet smelling often. Over the weekend except at night the windows of the room were open and it was not hot at all. There were copious amounts of honeysuckle scented mountain air.

Considering your experience it sounds like the yellowing I have is not the norm. Larry, just wondering, have you ever made a comparison with a print that sat out that had unprinted areas on it to newer unprinted canvas?
I probably would not have noticed the yellowing if I did not have a white bordered print from Friday laying right next to the one made today. Being able to see the two prints side by side however left no doubt that the material yellowed quite a bit.

Peter

[langier]

Hi Peter,

I, too, live in a rural area in a small town...Up the hill and about 100 yards from a major (for us) highway intersection. I do have cats, though, and occasionally they spray, but no prints, so far!

The only other thing that comes to mind is that the images got exposed to sunlight, though I wouldn't think that would be an issue unless you are at a higher elevation with lots of UV, but I haven't encountered that issue.

Try an inquiry to my go-to guy, Rick, at Coastal Giclee <http://www.coastalgiclee.com/>. He's helped me a lot in my production of a major canvas project and knew the answers to many of my esoteric questions.

HTH,

[Peterretep]

Thanks for the link to Rick at Coastal, I may drop him a line.

Definitely not an excessive UV problem as the room's windows open to a East facing porch which blocks most sunlight. Also the paper was still on the 7900 with the roll cover down over the canvas.

Anyone else have this happen with their Fredrix canvas?

Peter

[bill t.]

Lay a partially covered patch of canvas on the table.  See what happens.

Maybe the Pollen Fairy paid you a visit.  Is the kitchen nearby?  What about bathroom deodorant, and wafting Windex?  Fumes from household chemicals like furniture polish can kill parrots and maybe canvas too.  I once experienced massive uncoated print extinction from turning on the evaporative cooler back in the days before pigmented inks.

Used to use a lot of 777, can't recall problems of that type with any kind of media.  Loved that fine weave but not the chronic edge curl which I assume is no longer a problem.

[Peterretep]

Bill, any household smoke or chemicals wouldn't be a factor. The little cooking was done outside on a grill in addition to eggs in the morning in a house with open windows.  Household chemicals are seldom used, everything about the air should have been safe and good.

With what you and Larry said this yellowing seems to be not typical.
Thanks too for your input Bill, it's appreciated.

On a positive note there was no edge curl at all, the material was much easier to work with than Epson Premium Canvas.

Peter

[framah]

I have read and heard of other people occasionally having the same problem with their Epson paper prints.... a definite yellowing on the unprinted part of the paper. I, personally, have never experienced this but you might want to do a search for archived threads about it.

[bill t.]

Open windows?  Spray type lawn fertilizer or some other form of aerosol chemical death from the green thumb down the block.  And eggs = hydrogen sulfide, which is highly reactive with things beyond just noses.

framah is alluding to Epson Enhanced Matte, formerly known as Epson Archival Matte, and a bastion of low cost custom printing.  Just about everybody except framah and I  have experienced yellowing with that stuff.  Maybe it's because we don't like eggs, or because we don't stink that much.

[framah]

I'm pretty sure it's that we just don't stink that much!!