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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #60 on: May 24, 2012, 04:57:42 AM »

Define abroad?

I live in Australia.  I have Australian and British citizenship.  I've been to every continent except Antarctica.  I've slept in 5 star (+) hotels, under the stars on the bare ground, and shared a mattress and used a water pipe as a pillow in a basement.  I've shared pizza with street kids in Vancouver and dined with a Governor-General in Sydney.  I've seen a lot.  I don't think it's at all relevant to the discussion at hand.

There are still NO reported occurrences of this.  There's been a proof of concept.  Those who are truly processing so many images that they don't have time to see where they came from are the most likely to be able to afford an upgrade and to want to upgrade, but if you want to use non sequiturs be my guest.
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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #61 on: May 24, 2012, 01:29:03 PM »

I am really sorry but I don't get your point. There age millions of Photoshop users out and there is a potential risk of misusing this vulnerability and Adobe doesn't care
 
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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #62 on: May 24, 2012, 04:02:27 PM »

On a slightly off topic but sort of related subject regarding web surfing computer security issues, I recently downloaded for my 2010 Mac Mini's OS 10.6.8 security update which includeds an updated version of Safari and was surprised to find Safari's security is now rigged to disable older versions of Adobe Flashplayer according to this tech doc...

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5271.

At least Apple gives instructions on how to reverse this.

Not sure if this does anything because I don't see any changes to performance or get any notices disabling Flashplayer, but it does point out Apple is getting aggressive about web surfing related security.
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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #63 on: May 24, 2012, 07:35:08 PM »

Who says Adobe doesn't care?  They responded to complaints it wasn't going back to 5.x (either clarifying a bad communication or fixing a mistake - not sure).  But how much should they expend to guard against something that hasn't actually happened to software that is more than 2.5 releases old?

If there was a huge rush of actual problems, maybe there would be more cause for action.  At the moment, though, there's a proof of concept and nothing else.  The kind of places that are likely (and I use the word loosely) to open an image from an unidentified source bcause of a *need* to do so, are far more likely to be on 5+.  Individual users who are using older versions are very unlikely to *need* to open images from unknown sources *with* Photoshop (as opposed to a simple image viewer).
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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #64 on: May 25, 2012, 04:03:11 AM »

It's been over two weeks since Adobe announced a critical security vulnerability in Photoshop CS5x...

...and still no patch has been announced on their Product Security Response page.
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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #65 on: May 25, 2012, 04:19:04 AM »

On a slightly off topic but sort of related subject regarding web surfing computer security issues, I recently downloaded for my 2010 Mac Mini's OS 10.6.8 security update which includeds an updated version of Safari and was surprised to find Safari's security is now rigged to disable older versions of Adobe Flashplayer according to this tech doc...

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5271.

At least Apple gives instructions on how to reverse this.

Not sure if this does anything because I don't see any changes to performance or get any notices disabling Flashplayer, but it does point out Apple is getting aggressive about web surfing related security.
Yesterday, I came across this advice http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/37868/why-does-safari-freeze-on-youtube-html5-videos and removed two flash files from ~/Library/Internet Plug-ins and my computer is running much faster and smoother now. If I want to watch flash I use Chrome - it doesn't require these files and plays flash files independently.

I hope that Flash and IE will die soon :)

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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #66 on: May 25, 2012, 09:27:16 AM »

Yesterday, I came across this advice http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/37868/why-does-safari-freeze-on-youtube-html5-videos and removed two flash files from ~/Library/Internet Plug-ins and my computer is running much faster and smoother now. If I want to watch flash I use Chrome - it doesn't require these files and plays flash files independently.

I hope that Flash and IE will die soon :)

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I'm using Firefox on Snow Leopard and YouTube videos work fine. Nothing crashes or freezes. I've got the latest updates of Snow Leopard and Flash installed. Maybe the problem is specific to Safari?
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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #67 on: May 25, 2012, 10:24:43 AM »

I'm using Firefox on Snow Leopard and YouTube videos work fine. Nothing crashes or freezes. I've got the latest updates of Snow Leopard and Flash installed. Maybe the problem is specific to Safari?
It is not about stability but about CPU usage - it takes a lot of CPU - Flash is (very bad)

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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #68 on: May 25, 2012, 10:27:09 AM »

Fair enough - you have a point there. Being on high speed broadband with a well-spec'd MacPro I wouldn't see this problem, but for a great many others it could be a real show-stopper.
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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #69 on: May 25, 2012, 10:53:03 AM »

And next thing is here: why should any website store any informations on my computer?

I wouldn't say this is out of this security issue topic.

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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #70 on: May 25, 2012, 10:56:48 AM »

What's the issue here: they do give you an option to block it all. Some people - many in fact, actually find it convenient to allow such information to be stored; it can be handy for various totally benign reasons. Whether anything less benign accompanies that option is another story though. But we do have a choice and it's a button click.
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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #71 on: May 25, 2012, 11:07:10 AM »

OK. You are right. We have a choice to choose. By default it is set up ON. Personally, I don't like Flash from the beginning. HTML/CSS is much better and faster.
I am on MacBook Pro and even on this computer my fans are running all the time because of Flash.

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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #72 on: May 26, 2012, 06:07:19 AM »

Flash use on OS X used to be an issue - about 6-12 months ago (I really can't remember) an update pretty much sorted that out (had a lot to do with OS X not allowing access to certain things that were easily accessed under Windows, which has never really had a resource issue with Flash).

These days, animosity against Flash is pretty much historical and not based on any actual problem.
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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #73 on: May 26, 2012, 08:10:03 AM »

These days, animosity against Flash is pretty much historical and not based on any actual problem.

:)

Please wait, I am loading

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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #74 on: June 11, 2012, 12:06:20 PM »

So, now that PS6 has been out awhile, where are the security updates to PS5?
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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #75 on: June 11, 2012, 07:50:52 PM »

So, now that PS6 has been out awhile, where are the security updates to PS5?

12.0.5 and 12.1.1 (for CS5 and CS5.5 respectively) have already been released a little over a week ago.

http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/security-update-photoshop.html
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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #76 on: June 11, 2012, 09:35:51 PM »

Thank you for the link. I have updated my PS5 (12.0.5). I have been checking the "Updates" on the Help menu in PS5 for awhile. Strange that it never picked up on the update.

By the way, what is the difference in 5 and 5.5?
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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #77 on: June 12, 2012, 07:15:44 AM »

5.5 was a paid upgrade, introducing new features mid-cycle.  Details will be on Adobe's website somewhere.
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Re: CNET: "Adobe users must pay for security upgrades"
« Reply #78 on: June 16, 2012, 10:48:20 AM »

I have been checking the "Updates" on the Help menu in PS5 for awhile. Strange that it never picked up on the update.


Me too.  Checking for updates doesn't pick up this update.  You've got to know about it and go get it.  Clearly this update has some kind of 2nd class status.  (Gee, we could have whole 'nother thread just about the lower status of this update.)

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