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ziocan

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Re: Blackmagic..
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2012, 03:54:16 PM »

With all that DOF, if the skin tones will be nice, it will be great for cosmetic and beauty work.
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Re: Blackmagic..
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2012, 04:05:17 PM »

Hopefully that is wrong - but with DNG how can it be right

If it is correct then its another motion camera company who need to spend a week with a $500 stills DSLR and a copy of C1

I think most motion companies would enhance themselves greatly by doing that rather than listening to 'experts' of motion picture post which seems all backwards to me...

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That was what I thought. RAW, but with a burnt in white balance. Eh??

I've just about got my head around RED's RAW-like format. It isn't RAW, it is wavelet compressed so you lose detail depending on your compression settings, but it maintains the RGB information separately so you can rebalance in post. RED Cine X feels like a decent stills processing package as a result, which is a VERY good thing. Hence my purchase of a Scarlet.

I absolutely agree. Lock the motion design teams in a room with a dSLR and C1 and don't let them come out until they get it! :) :) Don't listen to the guys like the ones at Sony who were still saying that interlaced was the way to go a few years ago (shudder).

  Cheers, Hywel.
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Re: Blackmagic..
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2012, 11:39:23 PM »

Figure in $1000 for included Davinci, all scope outputs via Thunderbolt, looks like an amazing value - I love the SSD capability; smart.  Even though the audio is 1/4", at least it's balanced, Line or Mic.
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Re: Blackmagic..
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2012, 05:49:29 AM »

This could be what I'm looking for.
The 1dC looked most likely but a serious overkill for me. I need small, the lighter the better, 2.5k raw gives me enough quality to crop and output 1080.
The other thing stuff like this might do is give Canon a well needed kick up where the sun don't shine hole and reevaluate their price/spec ratio.

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Re: Blackmagic..
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2012, 07:36:10 AM »

Its setting out a stall for everyone else to see - thats the best thing

These (other) people are stuck in the past

A sat van costs 1/3 of a million - at some point a phone will do the same thing and someone will be sitting on the sidelines saying 'hey our sat suitcase' is half the price of a sat truck..
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Re: Blackmagic..
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2012, 08:30:07 AM »

The lack of any footage has to be a reason not to get to carried away this camera at this stage. If there had been some footage to back up the talk, I think I would of hit the pre order button.

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Re: Blackmagic..
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2012, 08:48:06 AM »

I agree - eoshd posted a still - and it was nice..

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Re: Blackmagic..
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2012, 02:35:46 PM »



Here's some Black Magic Cinema Camera footage :

http://vimeopro.com/johnbrawleytests/blackmagic-cinema-camera

Enjoy!

Thanks,
Tim
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billy

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Re: Blackmagic..
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2012, 03:31:52 PM »

I am curious how a wide angle lens will react to this camera:

-If you put the 21mm ZE Zeiss on this camera will it still have distortion at the edges or will it behave like a 50mm lens ( limited distortion and great for "as I see it" point of view )?

-And then wide open on the same lens is F2.8, will that look something like F5.6 on a 50mm on a full frame chipped camera? Dont bust out any charts or quote my estimates with ridicule, just trying to get an idea for "the look and feel".

On Brawley's 'beach dusk' video ( http://vimeopro.com/johnbrawleytests/blackmagic-cinema-camera/video/40390150 ), about 24 seconds in where the man is cropped into his waist, I am guessing he is shooting with the canon 35mm F2 prime wide open, and the amount of 'shallow depth of field' seems fine for my work.

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Re: Blackmagic..
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2012, 05:36:36 PM »

This has a crop factor of about four I think

A 21 would not be bent at the edges - but you would get the DOF of a 21 (lots)

The EF mount and lack of 8-10-11 mm lenses is tough

They should IMO have use a MFT lens mount

Getting a pure cine look will be tough - but compared to a 1/3 or 2/3 video camera the look will drop off pleasantly - IMO

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Re: Blackmagic..
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2012, 06:44:47 PM »

New clip from John Brawley. This one shows plenty of nice "out of focus-ness", wonder which lens he used? The DR and detail here looks great:

http://vimeopro.com/johnbrawleytests/blackmagic-cinema-camera/video/40584879

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Re: Blackmagic..
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2012, 11:34:39 PM »

Is this what the canon 5dDiii
Should have been?  I say yes!
  Unless this thing has some sort of unknown
Problems with the footage, they will sell like mad.
  I hope it has some effect on canon, because I don't really think the 5d111
Is worthy of 3500.00   
Tim
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Re: Blackmagic..
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2012, 03:27:47 PM »

If anybody is wondering about the ability to pull stills from the footage I just confirmed with BMD that each DNG still will be a bit bigger than 5 megapixel..... not bad. You cannot shoot stills only.

I pre-ordered. Now its time to think about a lens. For the kind of shooting I do I just need one fast prime. Trying to decide between the ZE Zeiss 21mm and Zeiss 28mm.
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