Learning Video Production the Hard Way

[nokinq]

It has been my misfortune to have watched both Videos described in "Learning Video Production the Hard Way"  by Peter Cox and Neil McShane,both very fine photographers no doubt,but rank amateurs in video making and presentation.

My advice to Peter and Neil is to get a professional director in future and a good script writer and to leave the ad-libbing to the comedians who by the way always script and rehearse their ad-libs.

Peter needs to get some impartial professional advice before attempting another video if he is happy with this effort, I feel he is too close to the action and production to form a proper impartial critique.

Michael

[pcox]

Hi Michael,

Thank you for taking the time to view and comment on the Dynamic Range pilot and episode 1 videos.

We believe that a combination of education and humour make for an engaging and enlightening programme. That said, we recognize that not everyone is going to connect with our presentation style or the tone of the videos. It is, after all, impossible to please everyone all of the time.

As you mentioned, Neil, Roger and I are very happy with how the Dynamic Range series is progressing. Applying what we learned from the production of the pilot has resulted in a much stronger launch episode - one that all three of us are proud of. And what we learned during the production of episode 1 will help us make episode 2 even better. In fact, we would hope to improve with each subsequent episode.

Video provides photographers with an excellent additional outlet for their creativity. It is a learning curve, and we make no secret of that. In fact, that is the main gist of the article you refer to. It would be great if our experience of making the Dynamic Range series could help others avoid some of the pitfalls we made when they undertake their own projects.

All the best,

Peter Cox
Presenter and Producer - Dynamic Range

[nokinq]

Hi Michael,

Thank you for taking the time to view and comment on the Dynamic Range pilot and episode 1 videos.

We believe that a combination of education and humour make for an engaging and enlightening programme. That said, we recognize that not everyone is going to connect with our presentation style or the tone of the videos. It is, after all, impossible to please everyone all of the time.

As you mentioned, Neil, Roger and I are very happy with how the Dynamic Range series is progressing. Applying what we learned from the production of the pilot has resulted in a much stronger launch episode - one that all three of us are proud of. And what we learned during the production of episode 1 will help us make episode 2 even better. In fact, we would hope to improve with each subsequent episode.

Video provides photographers with an excellent additional outlet for their creativity. It is a learning curve, and we make no secret of that. In fact, that is the main gist of the article you refer to. It would be great if our experience of making the Dynamic Range series could help others avoid some of the pitfalls we made when they undertake their own projects.

All the best,

Peter Cox
Presenter and Producer - Dynamic Range


Indeed Peter those are very noble sentiments and ye are to be commended for them,however when it is at the expense of your paying clients i.e. those like myself who paid out for the videos I think ye have an obligation to provide a more professional product and not expect us to finance the steep learning curve ye have undertaken.

To present a badly produced,sloppily presented,inadequately put together video such these is frankly unsatisfactory.

Michael

[pcox]

Hi Michael,

Thank you again for your feedback. We learn a lot from the comments posted about our work. So far, viewers have been almost exclusively positive and supportive.

We are very comfortable with the progress we have made as programme makers and we believe that episode 1 stands up to scrutiny. As I already mentioned - like any other creative offering, not everyone will enjoy it. I'm sorry that you didn't find it to your taste.

For those who might be interested in seeing some sample footage, we have made an entire segment of episode 1 freely available on our website: http://www.circleofconfusion.ie/dynamic_range_sample/

Best regards,

Peter Cox
Presenter and Producer - Dynamic Range

[mtomalty]

I,actually, liked the more casual, unrehearsed and, dare I say, unpolished approach.
The photo world is over-populated by far too many serious, self-important personalities and
your take is refreshing.
While the comedy might get a little tiresome down the road for repeat viewers I think it gives you an angle, and some time, to
exploit and develop into something of significance.

While i think you're targeting a different photo segment that me, I will check in regularly to see what you're up to and have
recommended your site to a few others who might benefit from your 'teachings'

Best of luck,
Mark

www.marktomalty.com

[buckshot]

It has been my misfortune to have watched both Videos described in "Learning Video Production the Hard Way"  by Peter Cox and Neil McShane,both very fine photographers no doubt,but rank amateurs in video making and presentation.

My advice to Peter and Neil is to get a professional director in future and a good script writer and to leave the ad-libbing to the comedians who by the way always script and rehearse their ad-libs.

Peter needs to get some impartial professional advice before attempting another video if he is happy with this effort, I feel he is too close to the action and production to form a proper impartial critique.

Michael

So - you hated the first one so much that you bought the second one?

[pcox]

Thanks for your comments, Mark. I appreciate you spreading the word. You definitely see what we're trying to do with this.

Cheers,
Peter