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Re: New "Mamiya Leaf" brand: what does it mean? No more Phase One branding?
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2012, 01:05:21 am »

We're in the process of migrating the data from the old mamiya-usa site into a "legacy" section on the mamiyaleaf.com site

Legacy products on the new Mamiya Leaf website
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Re: New "Mamiya Leaf" brand: what does it mean? No more Phase One branding?
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2012, 03:40:47 am »

Legacy products on the new Mamiya Leaf website

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Re: New "Mamiya Leaf" brand: what does it mean? No more Phase One branding?
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2012, 03:43:03 pm »

Legacy products on the new Mamiya Leaf website

http://www.mamiyaleaf.com/legacy_RB67.asp

well, the RB is listed.
according to mamiya the RB not in production since a long time.
so this does not give an answer if mamiyaphase still produces the RZ.
could be the RZ is old stock, because withot a 6x7 DB the camera does not make much sense.

nb, mamiya gmbh germany offered to import a brand new RZ pro 2 from japan for me.
according to them, it is conform to RoHS.
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Re: New "Mamiya Leaf" brand: what does it mean? No more Phase One branding?
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2012, 08:42:30 pm »

AlDoori,
Indeed, there can be a long, long lag from when the last batch of a low volume, high end camera is produced and when supplies run out and it is officially discontinued. For example, Nikon announced the end of production of the F100 some years ago, but it is still available. My guess is that the Nikon F6 and Canon EOS-1V are in the same "undead" state, and several manual focus medium format bodies too. Also, a company might not make the final decision to not make a further run (and destroy the dies and tooling needed to do so) until the previous batch is sold out.

So maybe no RZ67 has been manufactured for years, but supplies still exist, and Mamiya has not yet made an official decision to never make any more.
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Re: New "Mamiya Leaf" brand: what does it mean? No more Phase One branding?
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2012, 12:52:22 pm »

Correct, no change to Phase One branding, see http://www.phaseone.com/

We now use Mamiya branded bodies&lenses and Leaf branded backs

Capture One is a Phase One product that is used with both Phase One camera systems and Mamiya Leaf camera systems

Yair

Yair,

Appreciate some clarification; The branding now appear a tad confusing. Before it was simple because separate companies/branding; Phase One, Leaf and Mamiya were all Phase One companies, and Phase One cameras and lenses available for Leaf also... Phase One branded cameras and lenses cost more because said to be higher quality control... Is this right? Thus that Mamiya branded cameras and lenses will be of lesser quality control than those for Phase One system? Or any changes in quality control and pricing of the camera systems?

What about the "open system" policy? Is and will that be maintained, and will there be both Phase One and Leaf backs available for ALL camera systems CURRENT sold on market, thus not only Phase One and Mamiya but also Hasselblad V&H and Rolleiflex Hy6 ? Thus will e.g. also Phase One backs be made for Hy6 and upcoming Leaf backs be made for Hy6, since Hy6 is sold by DHW and as such is a current system?

Thanks.

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Re: New "Mamiya Leaf" brand: what does it mean? No more Phase One branding?
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2012, 05:20:10 pm »

Mamiya and Phase One bodies and lenses come from the same manufacturing line and go through the same QA

Regarding open system phylosophy, Mamiya Leaf makes the Aptus-II backs in M, C, V & H mounts and AFi-II backs in AFi/ Hy6 mount (the latter only in 56MP and 80MP "flavours")
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Re: New "Mamiya Leaf" brand: what does it mean? No more Phase One branding?
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2012, 07:34:53 pm »

Now that Phase owns Mamiya and Leaf, I am confused as to the advantages / disadvantages of the three brands of backs.
Besides the ability to get a rotatable sensor (which sounds like a great idea) , why would I buy a Leaf vs. a Phase One back
(or for that matter Mamiya)?  Aren't they really all the same?

Second question:  If you rotate the sensor from landscape to portrait (or vice versa), does the image in the view finder
change orientation?  If not, it would seem it becomes difficult to compose and the need for an L-bracket remains.  Perhaps
I am missing the entire point of the rotation--  I was trying to avoid an L-bracket and the effort of removing the camera
from the ballhead and reattaching in the new orientation.

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Re: New "Mamiya Leaf" brand: what does it mean? No more Phase One branding?
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2012, 10:10:33 pm »

Hi Craig, note the the rotating sensor is only available in the "R" (V-series mount) and in the AFi models

If your body is a 645 type then you cannot use a rotating sensor on it so you will have to use the L bracket. On the cameras mentioned above you will be using a focusing screen that has both vertical and horizontal markings on it, for composition and framing

Mamiya Leaf and Phase One backs utilise different electronic design and offer different user interface and functionality. So while some of the sensors we use are similar, the user experience and the results are not. Pricing structure is also different

Hope this helps

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Re: New "Mamiya Leaf" brand: what does it mean? No more Phase One branding?
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2012, 05:01:13 am »

Legacy products on the new Mamiya Leaf website

It's great to see proper info being brought together. For many years, Mamiya never seemed to have a single, authoritative website. You'd find some stuff only on the Japanese or European/UK websites and other stuff only on the American website.

I'd love to see another section - "Historical/Discontinued Mamiya Products" - the whole Mamiya shebang down the decades, with user manuals etc. (this used be a feature of the old MAC Mamiya website - you could find the user manuals for every version of the M645, for example). At hasselblad.com, they proudly preserve and present their historical product information: Mamiya should be no different!


Re. the new site, I have a problem with this part, from the RZ Kits FAQ on the Legacy section:

Q: How is the RZ80, 33 or 22  camera body different than the RZ Pro and Pro-II?

A: The RZ kits feature a new RZ camera body with  integrated electronics for direct, cable-free communication with the digital  back. While previous models of the RZ67 camera can work with the Mamiya / Leaf digital back, these older models require a special  adapter that involves external cabling systems. In short, the RZ digital kits are almost exactly like using a RZ67 film  camera: simple and hassle-free.


- Why is this described as a "new RZ camera body" when it's just the old RZ Pro-IID that's been around for a few years? It's just adding confusion to allude to some unnamed, newer body design...and adding confusion surely defeats the purpose of a FAQ!

Ray
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Re: New "Mamiya Leaf" brand: what does it mean? No more Phase One branding?
« Reply #29 on: February 29, 2012, 12:02:04 pm »

Following popular demand we've recently added some user manuals for Mamiya legacy products to the documentation section
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