Topic: New "Mamiya Leaf" brand: what does it mean? No more Phase One branding? (Read 10105 times)

BJL · « **on:** January 17, 2012, 08:52:30 pm »

Any comments on what this new branding signifies? Is Phase One branding being phased out in favor of Mamiya for camera bodies and lenses, Leaf for backs? It seems for example, that Capture One is now being branded as a Mamiya Leaf product.

Press release here: http://www.mamiyaleaf.com/news_pr_Jan_16_2012.asp

Paul2660 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 17, 2012, 09:51:00 pm »

When you hit the "products" tab on the link, it only shows the leaf backs no IQ series or P+, so I doubt Phase One has changed their branding.
However it might mean that Mamiya will no longer be selling the Leaf backs under the DM brand, like DM80 and instead just
using the Leaf name. Aptus II 12 etc.

Paul Caldwell

Brian Hirschfeld · « **Reply #2 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:26:07 pm »

It shows consolidation of power and resources, which is the whole point of all of these brands being essentially owned by the same people. Although, I suspect that nothing will change in terms of their branding....

yaya · « **Reply #3 on:** January 17, 2012, 11:28:44 pm »

Quote from: Paul2660 on January 17, 2012, 09:51:00 pm

It might mean that Mamiya will no longer be selling the Leaf backs under the DM brand, like DM80 and instead just
using the Leaf name. Aptus II 12 etc.

Correct, no change to Phase One branding, see http://www.phaseone.com/

We now use Mamiya branded bodies&lenses and Leaf branded backs

Capture One is a Phase One product that is used with both Phase One camera systems and Mamiya Leaf camera systems

Yair

tnabbott · « **Reply #4 on:** January 18, 2012, 07:02:23 am »

Quote from: yaya on January 17, 2012, 11:28:44 pm

We now use Mamiya branded bodies&lenses and Leaf branded backs

Capture One is a Phase One product that is used with both Phase One camera systems and Mamiya Leaf camera systems

Yair

And, it appears the RZ line has been discontinued. Comments?

AlDoori · « **Reply #5 on:** January 18, 2012, 01:23:18 pm »

Quote from: tnabbott on January 18, 2012, 07:02:23 am

And, it appears the RZ line has been discontinued. Comments?

the 645 DF seems to be the only camera in production.

uaiomex · « **Reply #6 on:** January 18, 2012, 01:46:53 pm »

As usual, the future of anything in the business of digital medium format remains a dark murky mystery.
Mamiya Leaf supporting Hasselblad.

Well, I hope nothing changes here.
Eduardo

lance_schad · « **Reply #7 on:** January 18, 2012, 01:51:33 pm »

As per our contacts here in the United States the RZ is till currently available for sale, at least here in the United States.
Yair mentioned I think that it is not being offered in Europe.

Lance

AlDoori · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2012, 02:55:12 pm »

of course the RZ is still available. also in europe.

yaya · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2012, 03:55:34 pm »

Quote from: tnabbott on January 18, 2012, 07:02:23 am

And, it appears the RZ line has been discontinued. Comments?

Not at all,

Due to RoHS since July 2006 there are certain Mamiya items, including the RZ body, which cannot be imported as new into Europe. But it is available everywhere else

Yair

uaiomex · « **Reply #10 on:** January 18, 2012, 09:51:14 pm »

Yair: What are the chances for a Leaf Aptus II 7 with a suffix "R"?
Tia
Eduardo

yaya · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2012, 02:22:11 am »

John, the last time I looked at the mirror I saw something that remotely resembled a human but if you're into Sci-Fi then I'll take droid as a friendly compliment:-)

We're in the process of migrating the data from the old mamiya-usa site into a "legacy" section on the mamiyaleaf.com site

Cheeta Jr.

design_freak · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2012, 05:47:49 am »

Short and to the point. Finally!

Clear and consistent policy. Congratulations !!! Great news!!

ondebanks · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2012, 05:53:40 am »

Quote from: yaya on January 18, 2012, 03:55:34 pm

Not at all,

Due to RoHS since July 2006 there are certain Mamiya items, including the RZ body, which cannot be imported as new into Europe. But it is available everywhere else

Yair

Yair, thanks for the info. Do you know which of the "six banned substances" are used in the RZ body? And does Mamiya plan to alter their production to discontinue usage of this substance? Losing the entire EU market because of a choice of a particular plastic (or something) is surely not something that any camera manufacturer can afford.

Ray

John R Smith · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2012, 12:28:53 pm »

Quote from: ondebanks on January 19, 2012, 05:53:40 am

Yair, thanks for the info. Do you know which of the "six banned substances" are used in the RZ body? And does Mamiya plan to alter their production to discontinue usage of this substance? Losing the entire EU market because of a choice of a particular plastic (or something) is surely not something that any camera manufacturer can afford.

Ray, I seem to remember that the banned substance is lead, contained in the solder used in the RZ electrical circuits. Which is actually quite a ridiculous ban in this context.

John

ondebanks · « **Reply #15 on:** January 19, 2012, 05:45:37 pm »

Quote from: John R Smith on January 19, 2012, 12:28:53 pm

Ray, I seem to remember that the banned substance is lead, contained in the solder used in the RZ electrical circuits. Which is actually quite a ridiculous ban in this context.

John

It must be all those people who go around nibbling on circuit boards that they are trying to protect.

Ray

uaiomex · « **Reply #16 on:** January 21, 2012, 12:59:32 pm »

Yair: You may have missed my question. Here again.
tia
Eduardo

Quote from: uaiomex on January 18, 2012, 09:51:14 pm

Yair: What are the chances for a Leaf Aptus II 7 with a suffix "R"?
Tia
Eduardo

yaya · « **Reply #17 on:** January 21, 2012, 01:30:59 pm »

Quote from: uaiomex on January 21, 2012, 12:59:32 pm

Yair: You may have missed my question. Here again.
tia
Eduardo

Yes I have, sorry....but the chances for that are zero as this feature is saved for the high end backs only

BR

Yair

uaiomex · « **Reply #18 on:** January 22, 2012, 02:03:38 pm »

Oh god, this is such an imperfect world.

Thanks Yair
Eduardo

Quote from: yaya on January 21, 2012, 01:30:59 pm

Yes I have, sorry....but the chances for that are zero as this feature is saved for the high end backs only

BR

Yair

BJL · « **Reply #19 on:** January 22, 2012, 06:50:37 pm »

Thanks Yair,

it is nice to get an authoritative answer to my question.

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