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basICColor display 5.0.1
« on: December 20, 2011, 03:17:58 am »

New basICColor display 5.0.1 monitor profiler is available in download section.
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Re: basICColor display 5.0.1
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2011, 05:04:11 am »

Any idea of what the upgrade cost is likely to be ?
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Re: basICColor display 5.0.1
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2011, 05:49:07 am »

No idea - ask hanspeter.harpf [at] basiccolor.de, he answers "blitzschnell" all my questions (even the dumb ones)
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Re: basICColor display 5.0.1
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2011, 06:30:07 am »

Thanks, I'm in no hurry just curious at this stage.

I'm puzzled that it says it now supports hardware calibration for NEC monitors, I'd thought version 4 already did that.
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Re: basICColor display 5.0.1
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2011, 08:17:47 am »

If you own Display4, the price to upgrade to v5 is 35 Euros. 

I just recvd my upgrade 'quote' from BasICC.

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Re: basICColor display 5.0.1
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2011, 08:44:48 am »

If you own Display4, the price to upgrade to v5 is 35 Euros. 
Thanks for that. Not an unreasonable cost if it's a worthwhile upgrade.
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Re: basICColor display 5.0.1
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2011, 06:49:51 pm »

Woohoo... thanks for the heads up. Playing with the update right now. One thing that still seems to be broken is the measure window for measuring white points on different monitors. If you tell it you want to measure the white point, it pops the dialog box up but when you attempt to move it to the screen you want to measure, it snaps back to the screen you called the window from. Another thing I've noticed is that the setting for "minimum neutral" on black point doesn't appear to be working. I'm assuming that this feature is supposed to be equivalent to "Best greyscale color tracking" in Spectraview II where SV will also profile the color temperature for the black point as well. When I do this in SVII there's a pretty radical difference. Black measures at around 15,000ºK without and with it, it's within 250ºK of the target white point. With BasICColor Display 5, using a white point target of D65, the black point measures around 16.2ºK and without it measures around 15.5ºK. I'd say for all intents and purposes, there' no significant difference there. It doesn't appear to be doing what it says it should. FWIW this is on an NEC 2690. I'll give it a shot on another display.

Cheers, Joe
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Re: basICColor display 5.0.1
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2011, 08:07:56 pm »

Pls make sure to throw a bug report or two (or more ;) ) their way. 

Also make sure to open the aperture door on the ColorMunki ;)  First thing I did was use v5
to validate an existing profile and it merrily went off and did it.  Unfortunately,
I ended up w/ dE of 1000 !!!  :o :D

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Re: basICColor display 5.0.1
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2011, 07:25:47 am »

I am testing the SpectraView version of the software.

You can find a small review here:  http://managingcolors.blogspot.com/2011/12/basiccolor-display-5.html
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Re: basICColor display 5.0.1
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2011, 10:59:56 am »

Woohoo... thanks for the heads up. Playing with the update right now. One thing that still seems to be broken is the measure window for measuring white points on different monitors. If you tell it you want to measure the white point, it pops the dialog box up but when you attempt to move it to the screen you want to measure, it snaps back to the screen you called the window from.

Okay, mentioned a few things to them and need to correct myself as I was wrong about a few things. This is not technically a bug. I think the implementation could have been done better as it's not necessarily intuitive or consistent with how i1Profiler, SpectraView, ColorEyes, and DataColor's software works where to measure white point on the different screen it throws up a window which you then drag over to that screen. BasICColor in advanced mode shows a window on each screen. If you want to measure white point on a different screen you click measure on both screens. The puck gets placed (obviously) on the screen you want to measure, and you click the "accept" on the screen for which you are capturing the other screen's white point.

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Another thing I've noticed is that the setting for "minimum neutral" on black point doesn't appear to be working. I'm assuming that this feature is supposed to be equivalent to "Best greyscale color tracking" in Spectraview II where SV will also profile the color temperature for the black point as well. When I do this in SVII there's a pretty radical difference. Black measures at around 15,000ºK without and with it, it's within 250ºK of the target white point. With BasICColor Display 5, using a white point target of D65, the black point measures around 16.2ºK and without it measures around 15.5ºK. I'd say for all intents and purposes, there' no significant difference there. It doesn't appear to be doing what it says it should. FWIW this is on an NEC 2690. I'll give it a shot on another display.

This is also not a bug. Minimum Native applies luminance corrections only which helps avoid color cast issues in dark tones when using spectrophotometers that aren't capable of performing well in the dark areas. Minimum Neutral applies luminance and chroma corrections. What I don't understand is... if you measure a dark tone and it comes back with a strong blue component which would be the case with the 2690 which has extremely cool dark tones, how do you determine what correction needs to be applied without referencing the white point? I would think that correction needs to be applied relative to some objective reference. When I hear "neutral" I immediately think neutral greys and on a monitor, for me that has to be relative to a white point. If my white point target is D65 and the black point color temp measures at 16,000ºK, that does not look "neutral" to me. Perhaps the labeling in German is a little more clear as to what it's supposed to do and something gets lost in the translation?

Cheers, Joe
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