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Stefan Fiedler

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best monitor profiling solution?
« on: December 07, 2011, 08:38:52 am »

what is considered the "best" monitor profiling solution with regards to profile quality, ease of use/minimal learnig curve and costs for a wide range of consumer level monitors in the amateur range?

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stefan
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Re: best monitor profiling solution?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2011, 08:57:47 am »

what is considered the "best" monitor profiling solution with regards to profile quality, ease of use/minimal learnig curve and costs for a wide range of consumer level monitors in the amateur range?

thanks,
stefan

Have you done any research on this website and in this forum before posting this question, or have you done all your homework and you are trying to find out whether there is any change of views on this matter? And do you really expect to see a consensus here, or will you be satisfied with a range of views that will help you make a decision on what to buy? I think the best you should expect is the latter, noting not many people have tested all that's on the market (profiling devices or monitors) systematically enough to be able to rank and interpret your objectives and respond accordingly with first-hand insight. I could tell you what I use, but that won't be useful to you because it's not cheap and not applicable to a consumer level monitor. You are asking a question that I am sure is on the minds of many people who would like definitive answers - my point of intervention here is to advise that in this particular area it's easier to ask than to get determinative answers - so interpret what you hear and read with care.
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Ernst Dinkla

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Re: best monitor profiling solution?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 01:40:02 pm »

Stefan,

There is a good thread on this forum:
Monitor calibration sensor evaluations « 1 2 ... 8 9 »

Considering the new X-rite Display Pro models were included at the end of the thread starting there may be wiser. Integrated monitor-puck solutions with the new X-rite models are most likely the best right now but the Discus still remains a good but expensive choice. Not that many bundles yet though. ArgyllCMS including DispalGui will support the new X-rite models too. Better read the thread.


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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 01:47:30 pm »

Stefan,

There is a good thread on this forum:
Monitor calibration sensor evaluations « 1 2 ... 8 9 »

Considering the new X-rite Display Pro models were included at the end of the thread starting there may be wiser. Integrated monitor-puck solutions with the new X-rite models are most likely the best right now but the Discus still remains a good but expensive choice. Not that many bundles yet though. ArgyllCMS including DispalGui will support the new X-rite models too. Better read the thread.


met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst
330+ paper white spectral plots including the Canon US catalog:
http://www.pigment-print.com/spectralplots/spectrumviz_1.htm

Well exactly, here's where the fun begins. Stefan asks for something that features "ease of use/minimal learnig curve and costs for a wide range of consumer level monitors" and Ernst comes up with about the most expensive hardware and non-intuitive software existing in the world today that would mainly appeal to experienced high-end professionals with state-of-the-art displays.

Stefan, see what I was telling you?

And I agree with Ernst that this topic has been covered quite extensively on LULA. Best read, with smart filters and blinkers at work.
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2011, 02:57:14 pm »

and Ernst comes up with about the most expensive hardware and non-intuitive software existing in the world today that would mainly appeal to experienced high-end professionals with state-of-the-art displays.

iDisplayPro is not expensive ( <= USD $250) and seems to be a #2 solution after Discuss overall
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 03:02:07 pm »

what is considered the "best" monitor profiling solution with regards to profile quality, ease of use/minimal learnig curve and costs for a wide range of consumer level monitors in the amateur range?

thanks,
stefan
New X-Rite i1Display Pro is a no-brainer.
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Re: best monitor profiling solution?
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2011, 03:04:08 pm »

Another vote for the X-rite i1 Display Pro.
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2011, 06:00:12 pm »

If you get a NEC monitor and their Spectraview software package, it's even more of a no brainer.
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2011, 06:14:47 pm »

If you get a NEC monitor and their Spectraview software package, it's even more of a no brainer.

Alan - you are recommending this to someone who wants a low-cost amateur solution?
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2011, 07:38:47 pm »

Alan - you are recommending this to someone who wants a low-cost amateur solution?
Yes, you can get the NEC P221 and the bundled software and puck for $530 US (B&H) which to me would be the minimally acceptable monitor and calibration solution that is easy to use.  Others have mentioned the i1 Display Pro and that already $250 (B&H).
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2011, 08:00:26 pm »

I agree with what you say about the value pricing, but I'd recommend careful reading of reviews before deciding.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2011, 09:43:15 pm »

If you get a NEC monitor and their Spectraview software package, it's even more of a no brainer.

Exactly (by a large factor). Set it and forget it; literally.
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2011, 03:06:50 am »

Alan - you are recommending this to someone who wants a low-cost amateur solution?

You probably were not aware that Stefan Fiedler is Salon Iris in Vienna, a well known printing house for 15 years. I do not think Stefan is looking for new equipment for the studio but for a student project or something like that. That the request starts with emphasis on an easy solution etc and to the end mentions costs and consumer quality monitors does not make it easier. Nevertheless I think the replies were adequate. Stefan will sort it out.


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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2011, 08:19:09 am »

No of course I wasn't aware who Stefan is - thanks for the advice - and yes, I agree, the way the question was put makes it very difficult to answer because he's doing the natural thing of trying to optimize variables where there are trade-offs and compromises, hence my initial concern about how it could be satisfactorily addressed - but as yiou say, there's enough here and elsewhere for him to chew on and sort it out! 
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