Canon ipf8300 or Epson 9890 any one can help

[gimbus22]

Hello everyone

Any one can help me before i buy one of them ?? Canon ipf8300 or Epson 9890

Regards
Gimbus22

[KenBabcock]

You know what, you're not going to notice much difference between the two at all.  The 8300 has a slightly larger gamut, but to the untrained eye there would not be much of a difference.

I would base my decision on purchase price of the printer and the cost of ink.  Depending where you live and who you purchase from there could be a big difference in price.

[gimbus22]

Hi, thanks for answer, i am living in UK, the price is similar about 3500Ł, 4000Ł but i think there is someone who is seeling CISS for Epson, i can not find CISS for Canon

Is this good idea to buy CISS for epson, any one has got experience ??

[KenBabcock]

I would stay far away from a continuous ink system on either of these printers for a long time.

Either printer will be a good choice and accomplish everything you need.  You'll find the larger ink cartridges in the 8300 will last a long time.  If you want to install a continuous ink system I'd suggest finding an older model and using it.  I definitely would not be experimenting with my very expensive 8300, and I've been printing for a decade.

[gimbus22]

Ok now i know that this is no good idea any way could you tell me please how much of ink 8300 is using per 1 m2 ??

Regards
Gimbus22

[deanwork]

I have them both and they both have 700 ml carts. Certainly no need for a continuous flow set up.

[KenBabcock]

I'm not sure how much ink is used exactly per square meter.  I'm sure others have calculated, but I haven't simply because it would not change anything for me.  I need it and that's that.  I have 5 large format printers and some are more frugal than others on ink, but they each serve their purpose and when they run out of ink I replace them.

But if you are trying to save money on ink by buying a continuous ink system, buy an older, but still very good Epson 9880 and use it.  Don't waste money buying the 8300 or 9890 and then run cheap ink through it.  You'll end up spending more money on profiling to achieve accurate colours than you would using OEM ink, plus you gain the longevity of OEM ink vs. cheaper ink.  Don't get me wrong, cheap ink has their place (I run it myself in an old 7600) but don't use it on a new 8300 or 9890.  You're making me cringe just thinking about it.

[deanwork]

You can purchase funnel fill carts for the 9890 and run anything through it. But like the previous poster says, then you have to worry about two things, first quality control with color consistency over time, and second longevity. There are some of these third party color pigments that have been tested by Aardenburg Imaging, but a lot haven't. Some have ok quality control and some don't. Some are very good gamut and some are really bad. Look at the results for the Image Specialists pigments up there that everyone was using a few years ago, not good longevity, and they are a big company and made ink for a lot of companies in the past. But maybe there is more than one Image Speialist ink? Worth considering all that.  A lot of the longevity issues show up in the magenta channel for some reason. It seems like it is harder to create a stable magenta than you would think.

It all depends on what you want though in the end. If paying 2/3 less for an ink that looks good for a lesser period of time but allows you to crank out massive quantities of work is what you need, then go for it.

john