Bumping this as a hopefully relevant thread to garner input from both John and Steve.
Ivy Bridge - it's close (from what I've seen main boards have been demoed and such). I'm holding out upgrading until it's released and that's prompted a few questions.
I'm almost certainly going to go with a Revodrive solution - is there any talk about PCI-3 versions? Would it be a significant improvement? Mostly, would it be worth waiting for if not available when Ivy Bridge itself comes out?
The proposed CPU line up I've seen for Ivy Bridge only shows Quad core, whereas we have the 2011pin Hex core processors already. Is there any talk about hex core for Ivy Bridge?
Any other comments/thoughts you guys (or anyone) has about upcoming Ivy Bridge related upgrades/updates for other technologies? If there's a good link to get up to date, happy to be directed there, but also interested in your personal thoughts.
This is a bit like trying to guess the specs for the new 5d Mark III.. in that most anything said is nothing more than an educated guess at this time.
If you go by past releases of major CPU's they've always started with the main quad, then released the lower cost options, and then a hex to keep people excited and buying until the next major cycle is on the shelves. I don't blame them for doing this, it keeps people talking and buying their products.
I think where we as consumers make our mistake is in thinking we need the hex core, or the next generation Revo, and we sit and worry over what's going to come 'some day', where we could be using the new stuff that available now and benefiting from the really significant upgrade from the last product cycle. I'm being loose with the figures, but to illustrate I estimate we'll get 80-90% of the capability of that product cycle with the first release products, if we wait till the end maybe we'll benefit another 10-20%.
However, the major upgrade is still from the last cycle products to the new cycle products. As an example, plenty of people are using the very first i7-920 CPU from the last cycle and it works great. The i7-960 came out nearly 20 months later and offers what, a 8-9% increase in CPU power? The 970 and then 980 Gulftown at twice the price offers two more cores which are really only beneficial for those who render a lot of video. And of course their halo product the 980/990 Extreme Hex offers 10-14% above that.
The wise money for the vast majority of us, is that initial i7-920 CPU because we can start benefiting from it's power right away, we really don't need the hex cores, and who wants to wait for 6 then 12 then 18 months of each incremental upgrade to the 920? Sure, if we're building a new system we spend the extra $20 and get the 960's.. but if they were out of them I wouldn't feel I'm giving up a significant bump by going with the older 920/930/950's.. Either one is going to serve us well.
I'm not saying the faster stuff won't be more 'neat' to play with, I enjoy building clients machines all the time so I can play with the latest and greatest. But I'm not running out to buy one for myself because I still have that initial 920 and I'm running a business, I want my full ROI and logically I know I'm not going to get a 'seat of the pants' improvement to make it worth upgrading.
I hope you followed that.. sorry it was so disjointed.
And the same goes for the Revo's. These are OCZ's consumer halo product and they're in the habit of leading the industry, so you can bet they'll be finding a way to take advantage of every new interface and feature they can, as soon as they can, but you're probably not going to feel a 'seat of the pants' increase in performance between the latest and greatest.. and the previous model. You'll be able to measure a difference, but not necessarily feel it.
I'll also be upgrading to Ivy Bridge. This is where I planned my next upgrade along with a new Platinum Seasonic, Revo's (The fastest available revo for system/programs, and hybrid (maybe two depending how it performs) for a work drive), a bunch of RAM, and maybe.. maybe.. I'll upgrade my ATI 5970 dual GPU card as well. But once I do, I'll not be upgrading until the next product cycle. I know I'll be building a lot of machines for clients, but there's no significant performance or financial ROI to drag me into it.
And it's not entirely about money or performance, none of this stuff is so expensive that we can't indulge if we choose. It's just a PIA and the mental addiction part makes want to be the master of my own domain..