Veneer coatings for traditional photo papers

[Justan]

I use Glamour 2 on canvas and love the results.

I tried using G2 on some Hanemuhle cotton rag (I think it was PhotoRag Baryta) and the results were not acceptable. Plus the combined expense is beyond practical.

Is there a veneer that can be applied on paper such as HP Premium Plus photo paper or other similar papers?

This application would be made so that glazing doesn’t need to be used.

Thanks!

[Ken Doo]

Glamour II is great for canvas, but difficult to apply to fine art papers.

BC's Timeless matte definitely works better on fine art papers.  One caveat:  It's difficult to hvlp spray fine art papers (my experience at least), and I've had to resort to (yech) rolling.  And much of what I've learned about rolling canvas doesn't apply to rolling on fine art papers.  I've found it best to actually work in the Timeless with the roller and slowly back off pressure on the roller.  I haven't tried photo type papers in this manner; my guess is it will be difficult to get a nice even finish on such papers.

ken

[dgberg]

I have had mixed results with the Clearstar 2000 (Solvent)
Several light coats and everything is fine.
On a hot press bright print I tried 3 heavier coats trying to completely cover the print.
Ended up throwing it away as the 2 did not take nicely to each other.
Do some tests if you like. Clearstar is a $1 an ounce in the can ($12 per can) which is pretty expensive.
I did 4 medium sized prints with a can which came out to about a $1.00 a sq. ft.

[Justan]

I forgot to mention above that I used a roller with the G2. did my best to use a really thin coat but it didn’t dry evenly. Spray application might work as the roller application showed 0 pin holing.

Dan, I'm not familiar with Clearstar. Is this applied by spray?

[dgberg]

Clearjet Clearstar solvent based available in gallons,quarts and 12 oz. cans.
They have quite a few different products available.
Shades of Paper carries it.

[Justan]

Thanks!

[Light Seeker]

I use Timeless to coat Canson Rag Photographique. I mix matte and gloss 50/50 (and dilute by adding 10% water) which gives the print a subdued shine. I found that matte Timeless by itself reduces both Dmax and saturation. The 50/50 mix brings those elements back to the same level as an un-coated print. I've done a number of prints this way and mount them on foam core. My customer then puts them into a frame with no glass. I spay btw, using a Wagner. The trick is setting the Wagner to atomize as finely as possible.

I've just started to experiment a bit with Clearstar 2000 on gloss paper. On Canson Platine the shine from Clearstar 200 gloss is almost a perfect match. On my black and white prints (custom inks) the only difference is in the surface texture. The coating subdues the texture a bit. When I coat a print made with colour inks (8300) Clearstar will change the colours some, so will have to profile using a coated target. I've been spraying the print using a spray can and I have some dust / hair issues to work out. I think making lighter coats might be the ticket.

Terry.

[dgberg]

Stand it up when you spray that will almost eliminate the dust problem.
The light mist coats when done this way will not run.

[Light Seeker]

I pinned the print to the same board I use for spraying canvas. I have a feeling the coat I made was too thick, and dried too slowly, leaving too much time for dust to adhere. "Light mist" sounds like the ticket. Also, I should probably mist the area first.

Thanks.

Terry.