Completely new camera technology

[jeremypayne]

I'm sorry, ...no offense meant, but there is no such thing as "digital" lenses

Sorry, dude ... but you are YET AGAIN completely wrong.

A lens with its own CPU and firmware can most certainly be described as a digital lens.

Please stop posting nonsense ... it is getting really tiresome.

[fotometria gr]

Sorry, dude ... but you are YET AGAIN completely wrong.

A lens with its own CPU and firmware can most certainly be described as a digital lens.

Please stop posting nonsense ... it is getting really tiresome.

Sorry, dude... a lens can only be glass and CPUs have nothing to do with glass, Its complete nonsense to try to overcome physics by playing with words, my Leica R and F100 cameras have CPU and firmware as well does this makes them .....digital?  Please keep your nonsense away from me.  Cheers, Theodoros. www.fotometria.gr

[PierreVandevenne]

This is a lens

http://www.xrayoptic.ru/images/lens_gen5.jpg

This is also a lens

http://www.imt.kit.edu/img/roeoptik5.gif

and this is a lens

http://daveyoder.com/search4davinci/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Smither-006.jpg

and can you guess what this is?

http://www.rpi.edu/news/image/pr092208-hirsa.jpg

So if you want to contest the meaning of commonly used terms, feel free to do so, but try to avoid too generic statements.

While your smileys imply κωμῳδία, your behaviour leads to τραγῳδία

[fotometria gr]

This is a lens

http://www.xrayoptic.ru/images/lens_gen5.jpg

This is also a lens

http://www.imt.kit.edu/img/roeoptik5.gif

and this is a lens

http://daveyoder.com/search4davinci/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Smither-006.jpg

and can you guess what this is?

http://www.rpi.edu/news/image/pr092208-hirsa.jpg

So if you want to contest the meaning of commonly used terms, feel free to do so, but try to avoid too generic statements.

While your smileys imply κωμῳδία, your behaviour leads to τραγῳδία

And all these lenses have to do with photography are they?  Now we can really play with words...., it's surely κωμωδία that leads to τραγωδία!

[fotometria gr]

Ah! Forgot to add, obviously there are people who think that because a microscope is an instrument, it can replace a ...guitar that is also an instrument! Great logic! Regards, Theodoros. www.fotometria.gr

[PierreVandevenne]

Some of them do. The last one could be said to be in the generic following class

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=liquid+lens+cameras

Then, of course, if you wait long enough, say 100 millions of years, you could argue that glass is actually a fluid.

[fotometria gr]

Some of them do. The last one could be said to be in the generic following class

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=liquid+lens+cameras

Then, of course, if you wait long enough, say 100 millions of years, you could argue that glass is actually a fluid.

But it is a fluid... This doesn't make it water... does it? But then again you can see through both... Ah! I got it! You mean that Galileo Galilei became blind because he was looking to the sun through a fluid! Regards, Theodoros. www.fotometria.gr
 P.S.You see! I didn't argue at all, it did take me 100 million years to reach nirvana....

[Gemmtech]

It can be argued glass is a solid or a fluid, that discussion is very old.

[viewfinder]

Not quite what's being disscussed here but an interestig comparison of where future technology may take photography;...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Th5zlUe6gOE

[Fine_Art]

These cameras will ship early next year!

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1110/11101930lytrocameraannounced.asp

[edwinb]

so does anyone know what the effective resolution of this is?

edwin

[Johnny_Johnson]

0.5Mp, 720 x 720 according to Thom Hogan's guess.

Cya,
Johnny

[Fine_Art]

The CEO said 1080 vertical at least.

[LesPalenik]

When the Lytro gets it to a usable resolution, and you can output from one capture a stack of JPG images with a different focus, you could feed them into a focus stacker and get a really sharp image throughout. That would be a nice and very practical application.
 

[EgillBjarki]

I think this is a interesting new toy, but the technology that is VERY interesting. I just hope we will not see another FOVEON case, I hope to see this in the big camera makers products soon, working its way to the top professional cameras. The thought of this in a big resolution raw format camera is very attractive.

[allegretto]

I'm sorry, ...no offense meant, but there is no such thing as "digital" lenses, "Digital" as a word of promoting, is used from the industry to trick consumers that the resolution is higher and can cope with  the "much better" digital sensors. It has been done before with "digital speakers" (not the ones with active amps on them) "digitally remastered" (you know.. the ones that cropped the frequencies with the noise) and elsewhere...., you 'll find many not "digital" lenses that are more "digital" than the "digital" equivalents (take my Zeiss for Contax645 for example). Regards, Theodoros. www.fotometria.gr

actually this does appear to be an image composed of multiple digital sub-images. digital summation by definition

so I think the nomenclature is appropriate, unlike much of the examples you correctly cite.

[hjulenissen]

That is a ridiculous assumption. A true professional uses post-processing as finishing tool, nothing more. The vast majority of work comes before the shutter is event tripped, not after we return to the office.

I find this strange. Most "professionals" that I know in any trade tend to economize their time and equipment, focusing on great end-results, as that is what pays the bill. For some that may mean spending a lot of time in the field, for others it may mean spending more time in front of a PC.

I think it is usually amateurs (like myself) who can afford to do their hobby exactly how they like, independent of end-results.

-h