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#8 tram stop outside the Tan
« on: June 02, 2011, 02:46:53 am »

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Re: #8 tram stop outside the Tan
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2011, 03:37:04 am »

Thats an interesting use of the sharp/out-of-focus areas.
I'm oscillating a bit between finding it a little unbalanced and finding just that interesting.
I am not sure yet.
I tried enlarging the image in my browser and placing it so, that a bit from the lower end was cropped such, that the main subject came more to the vertical middle which appeared better to me.
In any case I know I want to see more photographs from you where you exploit shallow DOF.

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Re: #8 tram stop outside the Tan
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2011, 05:24:54 am »

The out of focus areas seem to dominate the image. The focal point seems to be the person in the background but he is overwhelmed by the fore ground. Imo it is unbalanced. Perhaps if the person in the foreground was sharp and the background out of focus it would have worked better?

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Re: #8 tram stop outside the Tan
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2011, 05:30:48 am »

Yes, stamper, that was my impression too.
But what I find interesting is, that the OOF areas are a sort of frame for the subject.
I think thats an interesting figure composition wise, but it has potential to improve.
And I also like the sense of depth, since the two large unsharp figures are differently unsharp and its the middleground which is sharp.

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Re: #8 tram stop outside the Tan
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2011, 12:28:10 pm »

It's good shooting, Jennifer. I agree with Christoph on this one. But in the end, as often is the case with street photography, the faces are what make the picture. Here's another one where the faces are everything.
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Re: #8 tram stop outside the Tan
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 02:16:55 pm »

Yes, stamper, that was my impression too.
But what I find interesting is, that the OOF areas are a sort of frame for the subject.
I think thats an interesting figure composition wise, but it has potential to improve.
And I also like the sense of depth, since the two large unsharp figures are differently unsharp and its the middleground which is sharp.
It works just fine for me, and I seldom like photos with OOF areas. In this one it feels completely intentional, sort of in-your-face defiance of convention, and it draws you in to the wonderful sharp faces beautifully. Very fine shot, Jennifer!

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Re: #8 tram stop outside the Tan
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2011, 05:01:01 pm »

..... I seldom like photos with OOF areas. .....

Really ?
I see it completely different - I love them.
Interesting ...

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Re: #8 tram stop outside the Tan
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2011, 05:32:15 pm »

Really ?
I see it completely different - I love them.
Interesting ...
I was raised on f/64-school photography, so I'm a bit biased. But Jennifer makes it work, IMHO. So do some others, I'll readily admit, but it's not usually my own cup of tea. (I only drink hi-resolution tea.   ;) )

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Re: #8 tram stop outside the Tan
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2011, 03:48:40 am »

I was raised on f/64-school photography, so I'm a bit biased. But Jennifer makes it work, IMHO. So do some others, I'll readily admit, but it's not usually my own cup of tea. (I only drink hi-resolution tea.   ;) )

Eric




So that's what you were doing in the 70s then! Explains a lot; all is forgiven.

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Re: #8 tram stop outside the Tan
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2011, 03:49:59 am »

Really ?
I see it completely different - I love them.
Interesting ...




Quite right, Chris, it's one of the better ways of showing depth within a two-dimensional world.

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Re: #8 tram stop outside the Tan
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2011, 03:51:42 am »

I was raised on f/64-school photography, so I'm a bit biased. But Jennifer makes it work, IMHO. So do some others, I'll readily admit, but it's not usually my own cup of tea. (I only drink hi-resolution tea.   ;) )
Eric

But how do you know its high resolution, when there is no low resolution ?

Quite right, Chris, it's one of the better ways of showing depth within a two-dimensional world.
Rob C

Yup. Exactly how I see it.



And one more:

All unsharpnesses are created equal - but some are more equal than others !!!
Unsharpness caused by diffraction - I hate it! It makes mush out of an otherwise nicely differentiated image. It does not add information.
Whereas unsharpness caused by defocusing adds information (depth).
Unsharpness caused by motion also may add information (speed, movement). We had a nice example here recently.
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Re: #8 tram stop outside the Tan
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2011, 03:55:09 am »

But how do you know its high resolution, when there is no low resolution ?


It's like New Year's Eve: you make high resolutions every time but they don't count...

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Re: #8 tram stop outside the Tan
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2011, 03:57:05 am »

It's like New Year's Eve: you make high resolutions every time but they don't count...
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Re: #8 tram stop outside the Tan
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2011, 04:03:35 am »

Ouch! Now my head hurts even more ...


Hey, have some tea, then; it helps.

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