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EricWHiss

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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2011, 01:34:05 pm »

Problem with extended resolution is that you cannot make a single shot with the same resolution as the MS to use as a 'blend-in'. Hard to do 200MS with a glass of beer

This isn't such a a problem, when I had my 528c i would just double size a single shot and overlay to touch the few areas if something moved like a bird in the sky or a plant blowing in the wind.  Those areas were such small parts of the image anyhow.

And yeah you can really do a lot more with the multishot than you'd believe from reading all the posts.  I've been able to just sit the camera down on my desk - no tripod, no lockdown - and successfully shoot multishot.   
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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2011, 01:37:27 pm »

I'm also left eye'd and shoot with a MS back. Hasn't been a problem since I use the 45 degree prism or the chimney style finder most of the time and occasionally the WLF.  Never used the 90 degree finder.
Of course I have the Rollei and not the H.  ::)    But I'll be sad not to  be able to upgrade to this new back.
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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2011, 01:56:08 pm »

I'm also left eye'd and shoot with a MS back. Hasn't been a problem since I use the 45 degree prism or the chimney style finder most of the time and occasionally the WLF.  Never used the 90 degree finder.
Of course I have the Rollei and not the H.  ::)    But I'll be sad not to  be able to upgrade to this new back.
I also do not see a problem when I use:
Angle finder H
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or
HVM viewfinder
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I understand that you would like to have created the CF-200ms. I'm afraid that they will not do. I know that they have withdrawn all CF digital backs.
Too bad,these digital backs were really good.


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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2011, 03:23:55 pm »

I heard something like that they were considering the future of the CF product line.  Would be a huge loss if they did.
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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2011, 04:08:32 pm »

Of course there is, but naming it mentioning 200 instead of 50 is a bit too much (marketing).
In the end there's still is 50Mpx one shot, 200Mpx multishot, just as the previous 50MS.

No

The current 50MS will do 50 MP single shot and 50MP multishot. In a 4 shot the resolution remains the same but the colours are sampled four times increasing detail, colour fidelity and almost completely eliminating moires. The new back does all of that PLUS increases the resolution.

I should also echo what Dustbak said in that it is perfectly possible to shoot multi-shot on location, I did it for years.

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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2011, 04:44:01 pm »

No
The new back does all of that PLUS increases the resolution.

Ah, ok.
Now I see. Thanks for pointing out.

Tough, I still regard the 200Mp label a bit far-fetched.
(IMHO)
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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2011, 04:58:16 pm »

I'm glad you put "IMHO" after that :)

I haven't seen the system in action yet but I've heard the Tate gallery in London were very impressed and they really know their stuff.

When you test one and you find it doesn't work then by all means come back here to assure us that it is far-fetched :)

I don't think it was far-fetched to call my old multi shot a "384" even though it is only 16MP, as it does in fact capture a 384MB file (16 bit) in 16 shot mode. I'm told that the the tech boys have managed to achieve the same quality as a 16shot capture in 6 (or 7) shots which is pretty incredible.
IMHO :)

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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2011, 05:20:18 pm »

Hi Nick-T,
Nick I'm glad that you use a MS on a daily basis. Are you using it with the Body H1 or H2? If yes  -  Do not annoy you that you have a face in the camera?
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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2011, 05:42:34 pm »

So, 200mp-

 but are the lenses capable of even 50MP ?
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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2011, 12:02:04 am »

So, 200mp-

 but are the lenses capable of even 50MP ?


good point.
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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2011, 12:51:31 am »

This new Blad is a great camera for fine art repro. Museums, galleries, and repro houses will have a heyday with it. I've been using a CF39 MS for years - both in single shot and multi-shot mode. It is a very versatile back; it easily clips onto a technical camera without hassle. I'd love to see Hassey continue with the CF line, although it is doubtful that it will. 90% of my multi-shot work is for fine art repro and restoration work. Once in awhile, I use multi-shot for product shots. The difference between single shot and multi-shot is dramatic. I wouldn't entertain the idea of shooting multi-shot in the field. I wouldn't use a Betterlight in the field either, although some do.
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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2011, 06:10:50 am »

Some more information:

The new camera is also compatible with all 11 Hasselblad H System lenses.

The new H4D-200MS is available now for a cool EUR 32,000 (US$45,717).

Owners of the H4D-50MS can send off the unit to Hasselblad's factory in Copenhagen, Denmark for an upgrade at a cost of EUR 7,000 (US$10,000), where the engineers will also bring the firmware and hardware up to spec if needed to ensure everything needed for the new multi-shot system is in place.

http://www.gizmag.com/hasselblad-ships-h4d200ms-200-megapixel-camera/18747/
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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2011, 06:51:03 am »

So, 200mp-

 but are the lenses capable of even 50MP ?


*sigh*

Yes.
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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2011, 11:45:45 pm »

This isn't such a a problem, when I had my 528c i would just double size a single shot and overlay to touch the few areas if something moved like a bird in the sky or a plant blowing in the wind.  Those areas were such small parts of the image anyhow.

And yeah you can really do a lot more with the multishot than you'd believe from reading all the posts.  I've been able to just sit the camera down on my desk - no tripod, no lockdown - and successfully shoot multishot.   


Yes, this is indeed the case. A lot depends on the camera - with the right camera, it is more versatile than one would think. While most of my multi-shot sales have been to product photographers, quite a few of them shoot a lot of food, and several are dedicated food photographers.


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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2011, 04:57:08 pm »

Ah, ok.
Now I see. Thanks for pointing out.

Tough, I still regard the 200Mp label a bit far-fetched.
(IMHO)

It's just marketing :-) As much as you want to say - straight from Kodak ;-P
Of course, misleads many people. But who cares ...
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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2011, 05:02:02 pm »

It's just marketing :-) As much as you want to say - straight from Kodak ;-P
Of course, misleads many people. But who cares ...

Did you even read the thread?

It's a real technology and shows real resolution improvement.

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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2011, 05:21:25 pm »

Did you even read the thread?

It's a real technology and shows real resolution improvement.
I've read, I know this wonderful technology. Even I use it every day. Do not change the fact that I disagree with this naming ...
It's like an energy-efficient light bulb called the 100W. When it really is a 36W (100W equivalent)
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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2011, 12:45:00 am »

Do not change the fact that I disagree with this naming ...
It's like an energy-efficient light bulb called the 100W. When it really is a 36W (100W equivalent)

Good comparison!
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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2011, 03:28:30 am »

Bad comparison since the 200MS actually delivers 200MP.

If it were like, 50MP upscaled to 200MP it would have been a different thing but this is not the case. I wonder why both of you think this is a good comparison?
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Re: Does the 200MP Hasselblad exist?
« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2011, 03:53:35 am »

Bad comparison since the 200MS actually delivers 200MP.

If it were like, 50MP upscaled to 200MP it would have been a different thing but this is not the case. I wonder why both of you think this is a good comparison?

I see a conspiracy here ...  ::)
Maybe because the energy-saving 36W bulb provides as much light as 100W.  But it still has a 36W ...
I know it's just the name
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