i1P: Printing targets on Mac in app

[digitaldog]

Anyone doing this or all you all using either CS4 or the new ACPU to do this? On Epson, there’s the ability to pick in Color Matching either ColorSync or Epson Color Controls. Big differences. If you pick Epson, you can then select No Color Adjustment. But you can’t pick Epson Color Controls in Photoshop, that area of the driver is grayed out by Adobe. If you build a profile using Epson, it pretty much sucks printing out of Photoshop for obvious reasons.

If you select ColorSync, you have the option to select Automatic or a profile, but then the No Color Adjustment popup in the driver is grayed out. Building a profile now in that mode.

Bottom line is, its darn confusing printing the targets in i1P due to the disconnect in what you can select in Photoshop.

[Mark D Segal]

Isn't the root cause of all this the same damn issue being discussed on Colorsync about the inability to turn off CM in Mac OSX?

[digitaldog]

Isn't the root cause of all this the same damn issue being discussed on Colorsync about the inability to turn off CM in Mac OSX?

Not really. Kind of sort of.  APCU works fine. CS4 works fine. But they both work differently than i1P. I think the later may be a problem.

I just built a profile using a target printed out of i1P but set it to ColorSync in the Color Matching area of the driver. Again, that’s area provides options in i1P it doesn’t in Adobe products. That profile is better but still looks odd to me. I have to do a third test using APCU next.

[Shane Webster]

I print my targets from LR with color management set to "Managed by Printer" and have color management turned off in the printer driver.  I initially started doing this when LR had 16-bit printing and PS did not.  I didn't even know there was a PS issue until I read it here.  LR still seems unaffected.

[digitaldog]

The profile created from targets printed using ACPU is perfect. Both targets printed from i1P are incorrect! I’ve got three sets of measured data I’ll send to X-Rite.

This is odd because I now I tested this and it worked in the past. I AM using a brand new printer and driver (can’t say what, its unreleased).

[Alan Goldhammer]

This is odd because I now I tested this and it worked in the past. I AM using a brand new printer and driver (can’t say what, its unreleased).

Well you did talk about printing from Epson so we can only deduce that the brand is Epson.

[digitaldog]

Well you did talk about printing from Epson so we can only deduce that the brand is Epson.

Yes, that’s not the issue, I can’t discuss the driver model etc. This behavior I describe isn’t anything new, the same settings are available for all kinds of Epson printers (2880, 3800, 3880, etc).

[Electronman]

Did you ever get a response from X-rite about this?

[Doyle Yoder]

Anyone doing this or all you all using either CS4 or the new ACPU to do this? On Epson, there’s the ability to pick in Color Matching either ColorSync or Epson Color Controls. Big differences. If you pick Epson, you can then select No Color Adjustment. But you can’t pick Epson Color Controls in Photoshop, that area of the driver is grayed out by Adobe. If you build a profile using Epson, it pretty much sucks printing out of Photoshop for obvious reasons.

If you select ColorSync, you have the option to select Automatic or a profile, but then the No Color Adjustment popup in the driver is grayed out. Building a profile now in that mode.

Bottom line is, its darn confusing printing the targets in i1P due to the disconnect in what you can select in Photoshop.

I have not had any problems printing targets from i1Profiler to the iPF9000 with Canon drivers. It lets me choose in Color Matching "Vendor Matching and the under Color Mode "No Color Correction". It appears to me that i1Profiler uses Apples old printing path. Targets printed from the i1Profiler through the driver or from the Canon plugin in PS appear identical.

[digitaldog]

Did you ever get a response from X-rite about this?

None.

[Mark D Segal]

Are you surprised?