7900 or 7800?

[Jozef Zajaz]

Hi!

I've gotten an offer from my dealer for a demo 7800 with rip very little usage for 2600USD the 7900 new costs me 4500USD

Any thougths about this? Pro and against?

I was originally going with the 4900 but i realised i will need the bigger size.

[Randy Carone]

1. The 7800 is two generations old technology; the 7900 has new head technology
2. Both blacks are in the 7900 so you will eliminate the ~$60 change-over cost of the 7800
3. 7900 is at least twice as fast as the 7800
4. No spindle on the 7900 - the end caps easily change from 3" to 2" core size
5. 7900 should cost you less than $4000 and there is a $500 rebate through the end of March
6. 7900 ink cost is $.31/ml (700ml carts) and 7800 is $.36/ml (220ml)
7. 7900 ships with both blacks, which is a cost savings if you plan to buy both blacks when you buy the 7800
8. Wider color gamut on the 7900, which has HDR inkset with the addition of Green and Orange

[Jozef Zajaz]

Great thank you!

So looks like the 7900 is the way to go.

Its actually a bit more than 4000 here in Sweden.

The 500 rebate doesnt work in europe?

Buying it from the us would be like 1000usd in shipping.

[Wayne Fox]

Hi!

I've gotten an offer from my dealer for a demo 7800 with rip very little usage for 2600USD the 7900 new costs me 4500USD

You sure about the model numbers?  I can't imagine anyone calling a 7800 a "demo" (used is what I'd call it), nor can I imagine anyone trying to sell an old printer for that amount even with the RIP.  You sure it wasn't a 7880?

even so, Randy's comments still apply. The 7880 has much better output and gamut than the 7800, and while still not equal to the 7900, this doesn't translate to noticeable visual differences in  most photographic images.

[Sven W]

Why don't you go for a 7980? It's 25% cheaper than the 79. Even in Sweden
It's an identical printer except for the O and G inks.

/Sven

[Jozef Zajaz]

You sure about the model numbers?  I can't imagine anyone calling a 7800 a "demo" (used is what I'd call it), nor can I imagine anyone trying to sell an old printer for that amount even with the RIP.  You sure it wasn't a 7880?

even so, Randy's comments still apply. The 7880 has much better output and gamut than the 7800, and while still not equal to the 7900, this doesn't translate to noticeable visual differences in  most photographic images.

Yes im sure. Maybe its used then Will go for the 7900.

[Schewe]

Why don't you go for a 7980?

Actually, do you mean the 7890? That's the one with the new head tech minus the O & G inks...

[Sven W]

Of course.
I feel like having dyslexics with all the numbers. Me and my colleagues use to bet on which number each new printer model will get

/Sven

[Craig Murphy]

7890 vs 7900.  What applications would the 7900 be better at than the 7890?  Is there a visible increase in color gamut from the 7900 because of the O & G inks included?  Reason I'm asking is I do a bit of canvas reproductions for painters.  It can be tough to reproduce all the color subtleties in a painting.  Is this where the 7900 might shine?

[Sven W]

I can only tell the difference between the 99 and the 11880, which have the same printhead technology and inkset, except for O+G.
And it's very subtle. You'll get smoother reds, skin tones and foliage on the 99. On a media to take it. E.g. glossy papers like the baryta/fiber. On matte papers there's not that obvious.

The CMYKOG is also a great advantage for spotcolors and proofing.

/Sven

[Jozef Zajaz]

I can only tell the difference between the 99 and the 11880, which have the same printhead technology and inkset, except for O+G.
And it's very subtle. You'll get smoother reds, skin tones and foliage on the 99. On a media to take it. E.g. glossy papers like the baryta/fiber. On matte papers there's not that obvious.

The CMYKOG is also a great advantage for spotcolors and proofing.

/Sven

So you would recommend the 7890 instead?

[Sven W]

Absolutely !
If you don't have the needs for the above mentioned features.

/Sven

[Jozef Zajaz]

Absolutely !
If you don't have the needs for the above mentioned features.

/Sven

U mean this function:
The CMYKOG is also a great advantage for spotcolors and proofing.

I have no idea what that even means so NO

I will also start printing a local colleagues stuff instead of her sending it away. She is a portrait photographer. Maybe i should pick the 9890 now instead because that isn't that much more expensive than the 7900 i had a set budget for?

[Wayne Fox]

U mean this function:
The CMYKOG is also a great advantage for spotcolors and proofing.

I have no idea what that even means so NO

I will also start printing a local colleagues stuff instead of her sending it away. She is a portrait photographer. Maybe i should pick the 9890 now instead because that isn't that much more expensive than the 7900 i had a set budget for?

As mentioned, difference in actual prints between the k3/vivid magenta inks (3880, 11880, 7890, 9890) and the K3 HDR inks (49/79/9900) is very subtle and not even visible on most printing.  The 9890 might be a great move if you think you will have any need to print larger than 24", which with canvas is very likely since it normally requires excess canvas for stretching.

[Sven W]

U mean this function:
The CMYKOG is also a great advantage for spotcolors and proofing.

I have no idea what that even means so NO

I will also start printing a local colleagues stuff instead of her sending it away. She is a portrait photographer. Maybe i should pick the 9890 now instead because that isn't that much more expensive than the 7900 i had a set budget for?

Go ahead for the beast !
Spotcolors usually means the Pantone Matching System (there are others), and the x900-CMYKOG ink system cover that.
Proofing is simply to make a pressproof, to simulate an offset workflow, e.g. Fogra / ISO / GRAcol / SWOP standards.

/Sven