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« on: February 25, 2011, 03:16:39 PM »

Thought I would link to this little effort (video on the linked page)

http://www.sammorganmoore.com/smmcom/scroll.asp?more=1&iid=53

5d and 24 105 on rig, nikon D3 in hand

No crew lights or whatever

I think doing both is possible if you keep it simple

A still



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Re: Wooly
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 03:22:12 PM »

Beautiful - as is the model
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Re: Wooly
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 03:27:35 PM »

Thank You - she's a little quirky but Im a fan

Has other skills too as seen in an early video of mine

What I like is I think this Combo shooting offers the client great value - if you keep it simple

no director storyboard, meetings, assistant focus puller, or even gear

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Re: Wooly
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 04:31:52 PM »

 :) yeah it gives you time to shoot!
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Re: Wooly
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 07:30:03 PM »

can one embedd vid here yet?

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Re: Wooly
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 08:24:44 PM »

:) yeah it gives you time to shoot!

I see it as quite a serious economic issue - every person costs money

The real compliment is to the client who just trusts me to do the job I have been doing or the last 15 years (stills wise)

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Re: Wooly
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2011, 06:59:07 PM »

Beautiful model... but I don't remember my grandmother wearing that much makeup in the barn!   ;)  Maybe when she was younger...

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Re: Wooly
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2011, 07:18:59 PM »

Thank you... really lovely! (So much for trying to convince myself I needn't attempt to get up to speed on some video) What a very nice piece, and the stills have a spark, especially the one poosted that illustrates the deeper beauty that ofetn surfaces when not trying to capture "the moment" as opposed to "moment"
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Re: Wooly
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2011, 01:14:33 AM »

Beautiful model... but I don't remember my grandmother wearing that much makeup in the barn!   ;)  Maybe when she was younger...

Mike.

'Reality' was an issue - the client wanted the models doing stuff - ie pretending to be farm girls, (who indeed dont wear that much make up) I thought that looked dumb because the models couldnt really carry it off, certainly in the time

I thought it was best not to pretend and keep the 'story' a little more real (or unreal)

I suppose the look I went for was 'Here are some models wearing jumpers hanging out where the wool is from'

Rather than trying (and probably failing) to develop a more complex narrative (even in the stills)

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Re: Wooly
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2011, 01:24:51 AM »

Thank you... really lovely! (So much for trying to convince myself I needn't attempt to get up to speed on some video) What a very nice piece, and the stills have a spark, especially the one posted that illustrates the deeper beauty that ofetn surfaces when not trying to capture "the moment" as opposed to "moment"


Thank you

I love shooting video it has given me a new challenge after finding I often hit a wall with stills

Mostly that wall is me and my clients trying to work fast and to budget

Maybe ive become boring with stills tending just to do simple portraits as seen and also letting most of my lighting gear gather dust (since the nikon D3 which is good for 400 or 800ISO)

On learning vid I think you need to focus in on cuts, how one shots reacts to the next,

You may also note that I have 'conquered' the lack of portrait mode in video by using the pan up, or down rather than backing away from the subject to fit a portrait image into a landscape frame which is wasteful

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Re: Wooly
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2011, 05:17:12 AM »

'Reality' was an issue - the client wanted the models doing stuff - ie pretending to be farm girls, (who indeed dont wear that much make up)
Unfortunately the girl does need make up, at least in the video clips. She's looking un-naturally shiny on the forehead.
Video especially does need good make up, even if the end result is that the subject appears make up free and completely natural.
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2011, 07:21:54 AM »

Unfortunately the girl does need make up, at least in the video clips. She's looking un-naturally shiny on the forehead.
Video especially does need good make up, even if the end result is that the subject appears make up free and completely natural.
Yes, in the end those are little things that can change a lot. Indeed video is less forgiving in that aspect, you can see that the stills are free of the skin "video issue".
I'm not sure but looking at the girl (actually a very appropriate model for the product) it seems that she has a rather oily skin, wich can be her natural constitution but it does not match with her physiology (she is probably more "pita" (see ayurveda) wich is in the middle.

The make-up is super key. I saw many times live tv and they use it all the time included outside on location because if not the result is always problematic.
In fact, video brings chalenges where stills don't and vice-versa.  

If you want to keep your work philosophy (no crew, natural light etc...), just have with you a basic make-up kit. The advantage (a part from the render) is that at least you have a reason to touch the sexy model. (except for Chris, when the model is MR...just teasing, just teasing)
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Re: Wooly
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2011, 05:19:36 PM »

its a good point about a MUA for video, in the still(s) I could add a little magic!

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Re: Wooly
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2011, 05:15:25 PM »

Morgan, if you have a MUA, hoppe you'll film, and post. Cheers.
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Re: Wooly
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2011, 10:47:38 AM »

A more 'workady' job half day still mo shoot..

http://www.sammorganmoore.com/smmcom/scroll.asp?more=1&iid=63

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Re: Wooly
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2011, 01:44:59 PM »

A more 'workady' job half day still mo shoot..

http://www.sammorganmoore.com/smmcom/scroll.asp?more=1&iid=63

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Hi,
Actually, I experienced the same "dilema". What particularly interested me in your video is the render of the interiors and specially the tones of the white walls. I've been filming recently interiors without crew and lightning, just natural or artificial light and the results where exactly the same as in your video. Where the light enters a lot, no probs, but...I'm not convinced, something does not end to work properly.
The "problem" or difficulty I see is that it's in between a rock and a hard place:

It does not really gives the sensation of intimacy or natural interior, neither gives enough sophistication or volumes transmition. The warm tones of the white are somewhere "underexposed", can't really explain properlly what I want but maybe you got it.

After my experience with no crew, no extra light, I think it would work for certain kind of footage but I'm afraid a minimum is required otherwise. Video is indeed more complicated.
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Re: Wooly
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2011, 07:39:54 PM »

Yep - not too fine

There is huge DR in the house (sorted stillswise with a pop of HDR)

I should have made sure all the tungstens were off

Also I think the triple glazing has a bit of a green cast

Mix that with high ISO

(1/4 of a second 100 with stills and maybe 800 with the vid)

and it all gets a little challenging

Im working on some (really) fast to set up fixtures based on these

http://www.robertwhite.co.uk/product.asp?P_ID=1986&PT_ID=464

The flouro bulbs - not the fixtures

probably a bit of a pop of that would help

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