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David Eichler

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Lightroom Saturation Loss on Exporting (or Editing in Photoshop)
« on: February 24, 2011, 07:30:04 pm »

With Lightroom 2 and 3, I experience a modest loss of saturation when exporting, or when editing in Photoshop.  I have LR edit in Photoshop set to create a 16 bit Prophoto Tiff. When I export from Lightroom, I can export as an sRGB jpeg or a 16 bit Prophoto Tiff, and the result is the same. When I do an edit in Photoshop, the saturation loss is immediately evident in Photoshop, as well as in the Lightroom preview that is generated as soon as the image opens in Photoshop. It doesn't seem to matter if the file I am exporting from is a RAW, Tiff or PSD. However, it seems that, if I do an edit in Photoshop, and add back some saturation and vibrance (roughly +20 vibrance and +8 saturation) there, when I save the image back to Lightroom, I can then export it without the saturation loss.  I am viewing in color managed applications, and I calibrate my monitor (Eye1 Display 2).

Has anyone else seen this?  By the way, I have had no issues with printing from Lightroom.
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Re: Lightroom Saturation Loss on Exporting (or Editing in Photoshop)
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2011, 08:56:35 pm »

Any chance that when you open in Photoshop, the color settings are set to convert without warning to a smaller working space?

Also, be sure to check color in Develop module, at 1:1 when comparing to Photoshop.
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Re: Lightroom Saturation Loss on Exporting (or Editing in Photoshop)
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 03:32:28 am »

Any chance that when you open in Photoshop, the color settings are set to convert without warning to a smaller working space?

Also, be sure to check color in Develop module, at 1:1 when comparing to Photoshop.


My working color space in Photoshop is set to Prophoto.  When I use edit in Photoshop out of LR (edit a copy with LR adjustments), and the preview of the copy shows up in LR, that preview shows the saturation loss when compared directly with the original version in LR. Furthermore, when I export an image and then view it in any color managed application, Photoshop or otherwise, I see the saturation loss.

By the way, this saturation loss is mostly apparent in outdoor scenes.
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Re: Lightroom Saturation Loss on Exporting (or Editing in Photoshop)
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 09:23:40 am »

Next, ensure that the profile for the display is not a V4 but rather V2 structure.
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Re: Lightroom Saturation Loss on Exporting (or Editing in Photoshop)
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2011, 03:36:33 am »

Next, ensure that the profile for the display is not a V4 but rather V2 structure.

I notice that my profiles for my displays and 2.4 (generated by Spyder 3) and for some papers are v4 (generated by Colormunki) .

Does Photoshop cope with V4 profiles on printing?

Does anyone know if Coloumunki generates V2 or V4 profiles for displays?

What happens in lightroom / photoshop if display profiles are V4?

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Re: Lightroom Saturation Loss on Exporting (or Editing in Photoshop)
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2011, 10:20:56 am »

V4 profiles are problematic for print and display depending on the application.

The default for ColorMunki was 4.0 but in a recent release, I think they updated that.
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Re: Lightroom Saturation Loss on Exporting (or Editing in Photoshop)
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 10:43:40 am »

I had the same problem and still do to a lesser degree. I re-calibrated the system and most of this went away. I use an eye 2 with SpectraView II and NEC 2690wuxi monitors. I can't see anywhere if they use V2 or V4 profiles. Just installed 1.1.07 SpectraView II and compared an image in lightroom to same image opened in Photoshop CS5 and both are identical.
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