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Re: Impartiality of editorial v. advertising on the Luminous Landscape site
« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2011, 05:52:58 PM »

However, comparing the relative positions and clout of Mr B and Mr R in an attempt to draw a parallel is an absurdity.

I agree, it is an absurdity.  However, jeremyrh didn’t make such comparison.  You did, Rob.



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Re: Impartiality of editorial v. advertising on the Luminous Landscape site
« Reply #61 on: February 14, 2011, 05:58:29 PM »

Ah, have not heard such an eloquent socialist manifesto for quite some time.

I think you may need to brush up on the meaning of "socialist".
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Re: Impartiality of editorial v. advertising on the Luminous Landscape site
« Reply #62 on: February 14, 2011, 06:26:52 PM »

I think you may need to brush up on the meaning of "socialist".

Interesting... you are telling this to a guy who was born and raised in a socialist country (white-glove type), worked for years in a true communist country (as an expat, and in post-Soviet era), lived and worked in Western Europe (typically considered "socialist" in comparison to the U.S.), and ultimately lives and works here, in the good, old, U.S.A.... so, please, by all means, do enlighten me about socialism.

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Re: Impartiality of editorial v. advertising on the Luminous Landscape site
« Reply #63 on: February 14, 2011, 06:56:25 PM »

Here are the words you quoted as "an eloquent socialist manifesto".

“… how life should be.  Sadly that isn't how it is and you are not the "norm" and the "norm" has to be protected against those who are cleverer, stronger, more ruthless, richer, and finally have ideologically different perspectives.  This does mean, I regret, that some "busybodies will inadvertently poke their nose in your business...”

A typical definition of “socialism” is a social system that advocates vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.  The words you quoted as "an eloquent socialist manifesto" say absolutely nothing even remotely connected to the common meaning of “socialism”.
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Re: Impartiality of editorial v. advertising on the Luminous Landscape site
« Reply #64 on: February 14, 2011, 07:32:23 PM »

... A typical definition of “socialism” is a social system that advocates vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.  The words you quoted as "an eloquent socialist manifesto" say absolutely nothing even remotely connected to the common meaning of “socialism”.


Socialism is also a state of mind, a view of the world, vastly overshadowing the dry economic definition, restricted to "the means of production". It has also philosophical and sociological roots and permeates through almost all other aspect of life, including arts.

In one of its many incarnations, it also means that the "society" or "the community as a whole" (and especially "the chosen ones" to represent it) determine what the "norm" is and take it upon themselves, often by force, to impose those view to the community as a whole, and especially to "protect against those who are cleverer, stronger, more ruthless, richer, and finally have ideologically different perspectives".

So you might hide as much as you want behind semantics of the "common meaning" of socialism, but I can recognize its broader meaning... heck, smell it... miles away.

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Re: Impartiality of editorial v. advertising on the Luminous Landscape site
« Reply #65 on: February 14, 2011, 07:46:31 PM »

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."  Alice in Wonderland
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Re: Impartiality of editorial v. advertising on the Luminous Landscape site
« Reply #66 on: February 15, 2011, 12:08:27 AM »

Slobodan, you’ve taken my words out of context and twisted my meaning beyond any recognition.  I won’t otherwise respond to your ridiculous straw men.  

So, at what point can we expect that you keep to your words?

And exactly what does this have to do with LuLa?

You're prolly close to getting yet another thread locked if you can't stay on topic...
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Re: Impartiality of editorial v. advertising on the Luminous Landscape site
« Reply #67 on: February 15, 2011, 12:23:30 AM »

I think we're about done.

If anyone has more to add on the main topic, start a new thread if you wish.

Michael
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