Will the Hasselblad HTS do the job as good as a tecnical camera like Arca swiss?

[rhsu]

Thank you! I am starting to think thats right.
But what about cameras like the P3 and X-act?

Aside from the weight, will they take the realy wide lenses?

Doug's comment earlier in the piece sums up fairly nicely and the core point is the lens design between the SLR and the LF.  They are completely different and therefore have different quality resultants.... It doesn't matter what you attach to it - it does NOT change the design specification and the physics.

Regarding P3 and X-act, only similiar system in comparison BUT with a wide-angle bellow with my then HR35mm and Digitar 47XL. I just find infinity focusing can be a challenge.  The helical focus ring system camera is a breeze!

Reading from your wish list, do I gather that you NOT ONLY want movements but primarily needing to view your image ie ground glass albeit the LF tech cameras and HTS? 

You might want to consider Sinar arTec - it has sliding back for viewing, VERY BRIGHT ground glass !!! and loupe has excellent magnification - ie critical focusing.  The arTec has tilt/swing rise/fall and can take both Schneider/Rodenstock lens - and just about any MF DBs you can throw at it (? I think).

Good luck

[digitalcameraman]

Henrik:

I have used all 3 and have many of them installed with all sort of P1 and Leaf backs.

The Xact2 and P3 are really great studio cameras. The wide angle lenses are the real issue. I was able to get a double recessed lens board for the Xact 2 and able to focus the 47mmXL with no big issues. 35mm XL was very hit or miss due to the focus adjustment on the rail as opposed to the focus method on helical focusing with Cambo Wide lenses.

For landscape work I think you will find the Xact2 and P3 to be big, bulky when trying to capture a early morning sunrise in the middle of a field or on the side of a mountain.

The tech camera are much more precise to focus on the wide angle lens such as 24XL,35XL,and 47XL and 23 and 43 Rodenstock. Cambo RS uses this method.

Arca Swiss RM3d is a much finer focus method which should be more precise than even the Cambo WIde Lenses. The camera is work of art. We have only be able to test it with 35mm Rodenstock HR but look forward to seeing more glass for it in a few weeks.



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[NROCH]

I use the Arca Swiss RL3D. I got it for the extra shift movement/focus and its about the same size as the Alpa Max. Now there is the new RM3Di which is the same size as the RM3D but has 5-10mm more movements.

With the RL3D I have 40mm Focal Plane fall and 10mm rise with 20mm either side for shift, which isn't much different to the F-Line 69 Compact I used to use.

focus wise, it is a dream. I use the 35HR and more recently the 35XL for the extra movement, the 28XL I'm sure will become the main workhorse for a lot of people. It's cheaper than the 28HR but still not cheap!!! I tend not to shoot wide all the time anyway, preferring the 47xl and 70mm combination.

You can't beat these lenses, and with the tilt/swing mount combo of the RL3D and RM3Di(not the RM3D which needs to be rotated for swing) the kit hasn't come up short on any work.

[henrikfoto]

I use the Arca Swiss RL3D. I got it for the extra shift movement/focus and its about the same size as the Alpa Max. Now there is the new RM3Di which is the same size as the RM3D but has 5-10mm more movements.

With the RL3D I have 40mm Focal Plane fall and 10mm rise with 20mm either side for shift, which isn't much different to the F-Line 69 Compact I used to use.

focus wise, it is a dream. I use the 35HR and more recently the 35XL for the extra movement, the 28XL I'm sure will become the main workhorse for a lot of people. It's cheaper than the 28HR but still not cheap!!! I tend not to shoot wide all the time anyway, preferring the 47xl and 70mm combination.

You can't beat these lenses, and with the tilt/swing mount combo of the RL3D and RM3Di(not the RM3D which needs to be rotated for swing) the kit hasn't come up short on any work.

I thought the RL3D was a 4x5 camera and the RM3D was medium format. Is that wrong?
Is the size and weight very different?

Henrik

[BillOConnor]

One of the biggest pitfalls of tilts and swings is to overtilt or overswing. If you tilted forward to get the foreground in focus,
the tower probably stuck up through the zone of sharp focus. The biggest thing a photographer must learn about tilt and
swing is to use them with restraint.

[mtomalty]

Couple of questions
1-Are the most current crop of lenses (Rodenstock,Schneider) as prone to colorcast
   issues when used on technical cameras as were previous generations in that they
   require the second exposure with white plate to apply compensation corrections
   from within the respective manufacturers software?

2-When using a Hasselblad HTS in shifted position is colorcast then introduced as
    The lens is now positioned off-axis requiring  an additional exposure with
     white/opaque plate ?

Thanks,
Mark

[NROCH]

I thought the RL3D was a 4x5 camera and the RM3D was medium format. Is that wrong?
Is the size and weight very different?

Henrik

The idea with the RL3D was to make it larger, so that you if you wanted to you could use 5x4 sheet film, but it follows exactly the same principles as the Rm3D and as such is built for digital medium format. I guess Martin saw that the original Rm3d could use some modifications and so has produced the 3Di. In an ideal world I could perhaps want my RL3D to be a little smaller (I did bring this up with Martin on a few visits last year), but only because I tested the Rm3d for a month and that seems very compact by comparison. Weight isn't much difference though. Size measures 20 x 20cm.

Also, on a side note, I rarely use a ground glass anymore. I either use it tethered in a studio or when necessary, but the majority of the time I use the view finder to frame and use a Disto D5 to measure distances for any focus that isn't infinity.

[henrikfoto]

So the RL3d could also be used with a 4x5 scanning-back?

Henrik

[JeffKohn]

The argument that is compromises the lenses is nonsense.  We wouldn't produce an accessory which ruined performance.  The HTS was a long time in R&D and other solutions were discarded during this process to ensure quality would be paramount.

The only nonsense is saying that a teleconvertor will have no impact at all on the image quality of a lens. The only way it would be possible is if the lens without TC could out-resolve the sensor/back by the same factor as the magnification factor of the TC. Are you making that claim for your lenses?

[David Grover / Capture One]

The only nonsense is saying that a teleconvertor will have no impact at all on the image quality of a lens. The only way it would be possible is if the lens without TC could out-resolve the sensor/back by the same factor as the magnification factor of the TC. Are you making that claim for your lenses?

"Compromise" is a very strong word Jeff.

I am making a claim that the HTS is an amazing versatile piece of kit bringing Tilt / Shift capabilities to an MF platform without the need to invest in additional technical camera equipment.

What is wrong with that?

[NROCH]

So the RL3d could also be used with a 4x5 scanning-back?

Henrik

I imagine so. It takes a typical Graflock type back.

[Michael Heinrich]

The HTS is an amazing piece, but in my opinion for landscape you need a 28mm with movements and in architecture a 23/24 with movements.
The HTS offers a 28 *1,5 = 42, thats not enough...

Michael

[mudgey]

My experience with the tilt shift adapter was very disappointing. The extensive tests I did using the 28 with no tilt or shift showed significant reduction of image contrast and sharpness. It was returned to Hasselblad. A technical view camera provides the most versatile camera movements and both Rodenstock and Schnieder digital lenses produce higher image quality using the same backs. It's a question of 'horses for courses' I now use a Linhof m679cs for landscape and cityscape work.

[MNG]

Hi Nick,

How useful or how often do you find you needing the 40mm rise on the RL3D? I'm looking at this camera the RM3di as well as the Alpa Max and Cambo Wide Rs for a 80MP leaf.

Thanks
Michael