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Craig Murphy

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Tilt/Shift Lens
« on: January 11, 2011, 11:22:34 am »

Anyone have experience with this lens?   http://tiny.cc/cu4gy   Quality optics?  Sharp in the corners? Junk?  I'm looking to use it with my Sony 850.  Thanks for any comments.
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Re: Tilt/Shift Lens
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2011, 06:04:05 am »

I have no direct experience of this lens in this form, however that is the 80mm standard lens from the 'Kiev' family of medium format slr's made in the Ukraine by the Zavod Arsenal (national ordanance factory)    When the factory was closed a couple of years back, all the stock/plant etc was taken over by the 'ARAX' company who specialise in rebuilding the basic lens components to a high standard.   This particular lens, the 'Arsat/Volna' is a good performer on 6x6 film and the ARAX lenses have good reputation.

You may be interested in this page and site from ARAX;

http://araxfoto.com/specials/

Note that you can buy the same lens for the same price from ARAX themselves.
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Re: Tilt/Shift Lens
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2011, 12:10:18 pm »

Thanks much for the reply.  I don't know anything about these lenses.  I have seen ARAX's site.  I wound up ordering a Mirex adapter for my Sony 850.  Kind of expensive in dollars at 377 euros but it does look to be a quality product. Its direct connect and can use manual focus Mamiya 645 lenses in the 35-120mm range.  These lenses are going for cheap money now.    Thought about Zoerk but that gets pricier.  They get into using Pentacon 6 and other lenses which I know less about.       
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Re: Tilt/Shift Lens
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2011, 04:04:19 pm »

I bought one of these Arax T+S lenses about a year ago. It was the worst lens I have ever bought. It was so blurred except in the very centre and stopped down that it must have been constructed with an element the wrong way round. I returned it to the Ukraine and was lucky enough to get a refund. Cheers
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Re: Tilt/Shift Lens
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2011, 04:43:22 pm »

Malcolm,  Thanks for the info.  Makes me glad I went the Mirex route.  It actually made it to me in NY from Germany in two days.  I couldn't believe it when the Fedex driver walked through the door.   Btw.  The Mirex is very well machined. They are also good about answering emails.     
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Re: Tilt/Shift Lens
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2011, 12:43:18 pm »

For what it's worth...I bought one about a year and a half ago. No, it's not spectacular, but very good, especially for the price. The contrast is a little low, which shouldn't matter for digital, and it didn't look so great when shooting close. I wouldn't recommend it if you're going to use it as your primary portrait or table-top lens; there are better tools for that. But if you want something to try for the occasional special effect, or special situation, without sacrificing quality, this could be a good way to go. This is much more than an overpriced Lens Baby.

Remember that the lens uses stop-down metering and lacks autofocus. That's not a big deal for cooperative subjects, and I assume your full-frame Sony will allow for good manual focusing. For me this old technique creates two issues: First, I develop a shallow bruise on my leg after kicking myself for forgetting to stop down the aperture. And, it takes some practice to gauge how the in-focus and out-of-focus areas are going to read in the final product, assuming that I'm using lens tilt or swing for that effect (or correction). If you ever used a loupe on a view camera, you'll be pining for the day when you could stop down and get right in on the ground glass to really see what every area of the picture is going to look like. Live view might help out a bit, but for me, those little screens are never quite the same.

Note that the tilt and the shift are locked in opposite directions. So, if you tilt your lens downward, for instance, you'll only be able to shift, should you want, to the left or right. I think of the lens less as a "tilt/shift" and more of a "tilt or shift". Sometimes I can use both together, and just consider it a bonus.

If it turns out you don't use the lens so much, I imagine it would be fairly easy to sell on the used market. That should mitigate your investment risk a bit.  MB
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