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One Eyeland.com
« on: December 18, 2010, 01:45:18 pm »

Has anyone had any good or bad experience with oneeyeland.com?  Thanks, Jim
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2010, 02:37:36 am »

Jim I'm considering joining as well... seems like their standards are really high which is very nice.
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2010, 02:44:35 pm »

Klane, Hopefully someone will respond with some feedback, good or bad.  150/year isn't very expensive but if there's no response from viewers of the site, it's money wasted.  Jim
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 04:00:43 pm »

They don't allow to add any watermarks or signatures to the images, though. And as I see the files are not protected by any other means and can be easily saved from web. Probably not a good idea.

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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2010, 09:15:57 pm »

Tried submitting an image that I liked last year, it was rejected so I reached the conclusion that my work was not suitable for their needs and have not looked back since then.

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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2010, 02:17:03 am »

Jim,
What is the point of oneeyeland?

Is it a venue frequented by people looking for photographers  for assignments or
is it ,effectively,a site where photographers end up showing their work to other photographers?

Nothing in their 'about' page suggests any real industry credibility.

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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2010, 02:41:33 am »

They don't allow to add any watermarks or signatures to the images, though. And as I see the files are not protected by any other means and can be easily saved from web. Probably not a good idea.


I was invited into one eyeland (me and probably a billion others) and though the work they show is good, their demographics are only about 15% of actual buyers of photography.

That kind of killed it for me.

The upside is 150 bucks is cheap.  The downside is I don't think they allow motion imagery.

The watermark thing is a real issue and not with the one eyeland guys but anything that goes on the web.

I predict in the not to distant future (in digital that could be a week), that anyone that produces content will begin watermarking everything, right in the center of the image.

OK, I know nobody wants to compromise their image and nobody wants to look like a difficult artist, but the fact that a lot of advertising concepts are now produced from apple shift 4, make a pdf and show it to the client has gone beyond too far.

Much more than once everyone bids on projects where their photograph is the layout and that's just the ones that the art buyers we're either kind enough to include us in (or just forgot who originally shot it).

You shouldn't find yourself bidding on your own image.

We all know it happens, we all never say much about it, but it's there, it's real, it's a detriment to our industry and when you look at a lot of these websites that publicize photographers, you realize they only publicize to other photographers.  

What's the point.

The web is a monster and no single person is  going to tame it, but at least Iwe can limit the damage.

Now who goes first on the watermarking everything system?

We'll see.


IMO

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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2010, 10:10:25 am »

http://www.artandcommerce.com/aac/C.aspx?VP3=CMS3&VF=AAC_HomePage#/CMS3&VF=AACAC3_19_VForm&FRM=Frame:AAC_FramePortfolio&ARID=2U1XC5UMBQJ6

art + commerce has done it ( water mark ). Was at a talk about 2 months ago on copy right here in NY and one person was from A+C. He said when they did it to all the images they got complaints from Ad Agencies..... You have to laugh but it is sad at the same time!

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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2010, 10:43:41 am »

http://www.artandcommerce.com/aac/C.aspx?VP3=CMS3&VF=AAC_HomePage#/CMS3&VF=AACAC3_19_VForm&FRM=Frame:AAC_FramePortfolio&ARID=2U1XC5UMBQJ6

art + commerce has done it ( water mark ). Was at a talk about 2 months ago on copy right here in NY and one person was from A+C. He said when they did it to all the images they got complaints from Ad Agencies..... You have to laugh but it is sad at the same time!

Denis

Denis,

What's sad is photographers are either so insecure or so worried about what any person or company would think of them that isn't hiring them.

Let's be honest, if it's a client you work with, or someone you want to work with that contacts you with open, honest dialog, any of us will bend over backwards to furnish an image for a comp and presentation.

That's working in partnership.  

But the flip side is if a group of agencies complain that the artist actually putting their name on their own photograph hurts the presentation, then there is something deeply wrong with our industry.

We all bend to client pressure, photographers, directors, ad agencies, design studios.  Unfortunately it usually depends on the business climate.  

We all emulate, usually subconsciencely, but just screen shotting and image and calling it your own is not emulating, or using reference materials.

Its only smart business to realize that every person  that works in idea/image creation should understand we're all on the same side.

BC


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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2010, 11:46:21 am »

We've gotten a bit off topic but I run into this all the time.  Work I've done over the years is used in the comps that were sold to the client, then myself and two other photographers bid on it.  Since I took the pictures I know exactly what the cost is (expense wise) and relate to the client the process involved etc.  What happens more often than not is that the lowest bidder (remember photography is a commodity in Detroit) gets the project and then the look gets watered down significantly because of budget.  I don't know what the client thinks when they review the art, apparently it's good enough.  Hopefully, as profits increase so will budgets this coming year and quality will once again become a major consideration.  Watermarking my site's art would be a solution but I'd hate to look at them so it probably won't happen.  Jim
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2010, 12:28:00 pm »

I had an agency meeting last year in which the CREATIVE DIRECTOR showed me in my portfolio which images that person used for comps (there were multiple images).  I guess that person thought of it more as a way of indicating to me which images in my work most appealed to them.  I was never asked to bid on any of those projects though.  It's kind of like a reach around...

I don't think eyeland is a good idea.  Asked to join, submitted some files, never heard back...  Sounds like a way to get photographers to pay out more cash without any return.

David
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2010, 06:14:46 pm »

Oh Well, If you want to know where your Image is being used--or abused-- just place it on here--Voila!

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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2010, 03:25:18 pm »

My question will be, why any one pay at front to sell any of your work?
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2014, 07:10:42 am »

They just pumped 149 USD from my Paypal because I probably made the mistake to register a year ago and never used it since.
Not one email saying my membership was about to expire, nothing, just a pumping of the cash.
And now I went to their website to cancel my presence there, no such link to be found so I emailed them and haven't heard anything yet.
With business practices like that, that firmly demonstrate they are not there for us photographers, but exclusively for their own pocket, I'd strongly recommend to stay away from them!!!!
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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2014, 07:11:53 am »

Indeed, it was so response-less, that I even forgot I joined 1 year ago. All I got was emails from their management asking me if I wanted to pour even more money in one of their "awards books".
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2014, 08:00:38 am »


I wonder when persona injury lawyers in the US will start offering cash rewards to anonymous informants inside Adcos, and then offer the photographers to sue under DOMA for 50%.  That's a language corporate pirates might understand. 

Rather than watermarking, the time may have come to register virtually everything one puts out into the public with the LOC.  I know a few photographers who make steadier income off statutory damages than they ever did off stock.

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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2014, 05:56:24 pm »

When I contacted One Eyeland, to tell them I was not happy with this, they immediately reimbursed me the debited fees and I cancelled my membership. So ALL GOOD ABOUT ONE EYELAND from my point of view.
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