Please no (further) discussion about color accuracy which is certainly not the final goal for a pleasing rendition.
To be honest, I already deleted everything (including earlier discussions) about the X-Rite color passport.
Eric's DNG Profile Editor is the much more elaborated tool, imo.
Peter
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Firstly, I beg to differ on your first comment above.
I do a lot of work for museums and galleries, so I'm looking for (let's call it) objective colour, not subjective colour. A "pleasing rendition" is something I reserve for other work and personal work, not gallery/musuem work.
Secondly, the high esteem in which the DNG Profile Editor is held baffles me!
Unlike the HSL tabs in ACR and LR3, you *cannot* get an updated RGB reading after making edits in the Colour Tables tab of the DNG Editor. Correct? Therefore, unless I'm missing something, you can only make *visual* adjustments to the file, not adjustments using the eyedropper tool. So, it becomes a case of "It's right when it looks right", rather than, "It's right coz I KNOW it's right from the RGB readout" Yes?
For this reason alone, the "long-hand" Fraser method done in ACR (and not in LR3, which a. Doesn't allow you to work in a colour space you'll be using after saving out and b. Doesn't have a Colour Sampler Tool, which is pretty much essential for the Fraser method.) has to be better, surely?
One final point......
If you download Gretag CC files from this link>
http://www.babelcolor.com/main_level/ColorChecker.htm#ColorChecker_imagestry the following experiment:
1. Open the Adobe RGB 1998 16bit file in CS5. The green patch should measure 101, 148, 78.
2. Now open the same file in ACR, with settings (bottom of the editing screen) set to Adobe RGB 1998 16bit, and take a measurement of the green patch. On my ACR 6.3 it reads 116, 146, 83.
Go figure, as they say.
My tuppence worth.........ACR offers more control in terms of colour than anything else. (CS5 offers everything, of course, but I want to do as much as possible at the RAW stage) You're not locked into the ridiculous Melissa RGB (why Adobe?) in LR3, nor into the % readouts. In an ideal world, LR3 would have the same ability to select working space as ACR and it would have a Colour Sampler Tool. As to the Adobe 98 files reading differently in two programs.........??
Finally, if I am missing something in my approach to the DNG Profile Editor, please let me know.
I'd like to use it because I know if I could get updated RGB readouts, it would be much faster than Fraser/ACR.
Thanks for all the feedback. Glad I started the thread.
D.