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fredjeang

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Editing consoles
« on: December 08, 2010, 07:00:34 pm »

Hi,

Is there a console well priced for non-linear edition you could recommend for enhancing the workflow?

(something similar to what was the SONY BVE-910 in linear)

Thanks
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Re: Editing consoles
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2010, 08:48:22 am »

There's a lot on the market for this, as you'll find out from Google.

There are a lot of colour coded keyboards for particular editing software that many editors like, YMMV.

I've used the Countour design Shuttle Pro jog/shuttle controller a lot and prefer that myself. It can be programmed to work exactly how you like and can also be used with other programs, eg Lightroom to aid productivity too.
The one problem is the terrible support from Contour. Great if it works on your system, but eBay fodder if it doesn't.
I reported a bug with it's software for Windows 7 64bit (confirmed by others) in April, but no fix has been offered yet.
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Re: Editing consoles
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2010, 10:18:31 am »

Thanks.
Yeah, windows 7...same trouble with the Griffin.
Weired, because in video there are much more windows users.
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Re: Editing consoles
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2010, 10:50:06 am »

windows 7...same trouble with the Griffin.
"Same trouble" ? exactly the same fault as reported on the Shuttle support forum ? ie disappearing when switching users ?
If so, it might be worth contacting MS regarding this with respect to their HID driver interacting badly.

I suspect it's more down to a poor driver installer myself.

The problem with small operations like Contour or Griffin is that they don't seem to have the resources to offer really good in-depth technical support. I get the impression they're one man bands that out-source specialist software development, so paying for a rewrite hits their bottom line too much unless it really hurts sales.
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Re: Editing consoles
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2010, 12:09:53 pm »

It seems that the Griffin sometimes works on some units and other units have troubles (same OS)
The reports that I saw are diverse and no one  seems to know what really is going on, but I'm far from having checked deeply.
One of the failures that comes over and over again is the inhability of the griffin to work without its control panel active, but other users didn't have this problem at all.

As you pointed, the compagnies are not giving any support.
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Re: Editing consoles
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2010, 12:31:41 pm »

The reports that I saw are diverse and no one  seems to know what really is going on, but I'm far from having checked deeply.
One of the failures that comes over and over again is the inhability of the griffin to work without its control panel active, but other users didn't have this problem at all.
As you pointed, the compagnies are not giving any support.
At least with the Shuttle it generally works well, it's just a couple of very specific issues that trip it up and there's at least a work round for the one I suffer here.

The Griffin sounds best to be avoided. There's not much it can do and "diverse problems" and no support  would convince me to avoid it.
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Re: Editing consoles
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2010, 01:09:34 pm »

The Countour design Shuttle Pro has a good reputation indeed. I was tempted by the Griffin because it appeared to me less plastic and also its simplicity , you know the old saying: less is more. But maybe less is less in a console  

I'm actually combining the edition between Adobe Premiere pro and the Edius 5. I guess that shuttle is programable for each software no?
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Re: Editing consoles
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2010, 03:14:05 pm »

The Countour design Shuttle Pro has a good reputation indeed. I was tempted by the Griffin because it appeared to me less plastic and also its simplicity , you know the old saying: less is more. But maybe less is less in a console  ;D
Yes, in this case less really is less  ;)
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I'm actually combining the edition between Adobe Premiere pro and the Edius 5. I guess that shuttle is programable for each software no?
Yes, you can create custom settings for the buttons and jog/shuttle controllers for any application and the driver loads whichever has the system focus.

I'd advise settling on just one editor and really learning it, rather than trying to work with both. If you must use both, see if there are any common keyboard shortcuts to propgram onto the Shuttle. Having the same button do the same thing on both packages will help get to grips with the hardware more quickly.
My own preference is for PP CS5 (assuming your hardware is up to it), it handles DSLR files very easily.
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