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Timo Löfgren

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R G B
« on: December 06, 2010, 05:32:37 AM »

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Rob C

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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2010, 02:20:29 PM »

Like the middle one best - it ¡s actually far too cold here in Mallorca to appreciate pictures of cold places. There's a nice rich colour to the middle one that I like, quite apart from the shapes.

I'm currently experimenting with what's cheaper: burning electricity or the usual wood fire. Wood costs me (last lot in Jan/Feb) 400€ a ton; in bad winters we used to burn three of them and in not so bad ones, around one-and-a-half, with electricity also being used quite heavily. The bills that crash into the box before April will reveal all... but mainly the state of the bank account. ;-(

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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2010, 01:22:20 AM »

I like them all and much prefer your colour versions to the BW versions. As to the colour complaints, this is nothing new. Velvia film and others film makes always produce such colours. Agfa was always known for more muted tones and reproducing pastels beautifully. And supposedly, some of the Kodak films were closer to reality. All the makes had their versions for skin tones and people images. But they all have their palettes. In an age where people can turn mediocre and bad colour images into BW by digital means into something acceptable, this film palette looks just fine to me.

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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2010, 10:36:18 AM »

Timo, I'm afraid I don't agree with John. Your B&Ws are stunning because, it appears, you're a master of tone mapping. But though the composition and subject matter in these color shots are excellent they come across to me as roughly the equivalent of travel posters. My beef is the boosted color saturation. As John said, without quite saying it, Velvia always gave oversaturated results. So did Kodachrome. But once you get a picture into digital form either with a digital camera or with a scanner you have complete control over the colors. Overstaurated colors always sell well at "art fairs," but I've always suspected that once a buyer gets his colorful treasure home and hangs it on a wall for six months he's going to find that he just can't stand to look at it any longer. But then, possibly not.

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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2010, 10:41:58 AM »

I agree about the levels of saturation and vibrancy.  Given the level of tonal variation, it almost looks like this is an intermediate step in your workflow to get to a B&W image.

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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2010, 11:13:28 AM »

I agree with Russ and Michswiss. Your black-and-white work always speaks to my soul, but these are merely pretty, and the saturation works to eliminate the magic that your B&W work has.

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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 01:14:51 PM »

I agree about the levels of saturation and vibrancy.  Given the level of tonal variation, it almost looks like this is an intermediate step in your workflow to get to a B&W image.
That was exactly my thought. I find your b&w photos stunning, Timo, and these just don't excite the same awe.

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Timo Löfgren

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Re: R G B
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2010, 01:22:21 PM »

I describe many of the landscapes and color film deal, however, almost all black and white because I like them a lot more. However, I have the original color film so many times I want to do them in color.
Then you do not laugh at my 'brilliant' 'language skills (Google translator.) ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2010, 03:15:16 PM »

Timo, Your language skills are just fine. I spent most of my childhood in northern Michigan where many of my playmates were Finnish and I still can't speak Finnish. I have one sister in law who can, though.

I'll say it again: when the next B&W magazine portfolio contest starts, get a portfolio to them. It's been a long time since I've seen anyone do black and white the way you're doing it.

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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2010, 03:31:12 PM »

I'm a big fan of your B&W photos.  These color ones, not so much.  It's not that they're bad, it's just that they don't have that "special" look that your B&W images do.  Although I do really like the third one's composition and I think it would be terrific in B&W.
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2010, 05:51:54 AM »

I describe many of the landscapes and color film deal, however, almost all black and white because I like them a lot more. However, I have the original color film so many times I want to do them in color.
Then you do not laugh at my 'brilliant' 'language skills (Google translator.) ;D ;D ;D

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Did I understand correctly.  These are film?  The reason I ask is that I'm shooting Provia these days exactly because it does have so much vibrancy and saturation.  Colours tend to look washed out given the dusty nature of the place as well as the oh so common flat light.  But, I don't think I'd use this film in brighter, more contrasty situations.  It could burn retinas.

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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2010, 07:44:15 AM »

The second one looks a bit over-saturated to me, too. But the third one has the exact color to make me feel cold just by looking at it.
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2010, 10:39:00 PM »

the middle shot is my favorite of the tree. Nice composition, definitely have a good foreground, middle ground, and background. Color is great.
Time of day for the shot makes the light a little harsh - maybe a little earlier? (this is a dawn shot?)

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